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Re: Fake Dead Sea reporting [Re: Foxpaw] #7299039
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You see no harm? So someone say's they can sleep with someone of the same sex not repent of it and not call it a sin and it's okay?

Re: Fake Dead Sea reporting [Re: Foxpaw] #7299042
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It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible. George Washington

Pastor posted that on our FB churches home page and the powers that be over there said it violated community standards and they took it down. Even now we're being set up. You'd better choose wisely on which side of the fence you're sitting on.

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But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;


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21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.


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Re: Fake Dead Sea reporting [Re: Foxpaw] #7299054
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Except Posco, no place but Facebook makes the claim Washington ever said that. Just more misinformation by "righteous disciples of Jesus" (my words)


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Re: Fake Dead Sea reporting [Re: Foxpaw] #7299055
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Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. John Adams ...


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If we who know God are so deluded why the animosity and aggression on the part of those who chose not to believe?

If anything that alone is prima facia that something exists, either that or those who chose not to believe are as equally deluded.


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Danny I’ve asked this before and to my best knowledge it was never answered. If you don’t believe in God where do you get your morals from? Not a trick question just curious. Thanks


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Re: Fake Dead Sea reporting [Re: Foxpaw] #7299070
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Pawnee I have answered it. Many times. i guess you never noticed. You will just disagree so whats the point of answering again??

"If we who know God are so deluded why the animosity and aggression" You need thicker skin. I get tired of fairy tales. People continue to spout them so why would I not post my disbelief? Are you Christians the only ones who can tell people what they believe?

Why did you use the word aggression ? We must have a different idea of what aggression is.


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Re: Fake Dead Sea reporting [Re: danny clifton] #7299072
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Except Posco, no place but Facebook makes the claim Washington ever said that. Just more misinformation by "righteous disciples of Jesus" (my words)

Whether Washington made the statement or not, FB took issue with the thrust of the sentiment. There's no question this country was formulated around the Judeo/Christian heritage. I don't suffer under the illusion that the majority of Americans were ever truly followers of Christ but the majority recognized the influence Christianity had on this country and at least paid it lip service. God blessed us accordingly.

The book of Revelation is playing out in front of our eyes and many refuse to see it. The world is being set up to submit to a global authority. It's coming.

Re: Fake Dead Sea reporting [Re: Foxpaw] #7299073
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Well, let's see. It all began with a cross outside of Jerusalem. Ten of the eleven surviving apostles all died at the hands of persecutors. Including one who vehemently denied Christ when first challenged but would later see the risen Christ. Just why would they do that if they were spreading a falsehood?
Then there was state sanctioned genocide in the coliseum.
Whole books are written of those who have given their life for belief in a falsehood and yet the persecution continues to this day.
Seems to me if you just ignore us it'll all go away.

I don't know of a single follower of Christ who attacks non believers or seeks to limit the free exercise of disbelief.


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Originally Posted by rex123
After man has had his hands in it all I say is every church and group write and rewrite things slanted to their point of view, if not why is there one God and a hundred or more different churches in this country alone. Even on here people can't agree .

That's a very complex issue but at its core is what set off the reformation and Martin Luther marling the 95 thesis to the door..... Most people fail to study the Bible and only know what is told during service.

Growing up as a catholic priests would get mad for asking deep biblical questions. It wasn't until I became a Christian and really started studying that things made sense. Even while in school of ministry and biblical college there was a constant theological debate between free will and election amongst other debates like the 2nd coming.

The main things to ask is it biblical, is it a main issue or a secondary issue or nonissue, is the particular church teaching biblically and against sin?
A nonissue would be something like corporate worship style. Some churches want it to be a concert others want only hymns.
A secondary issue is something like end times (eschatology).

Re: Fake Dead Sea reporting [Re: danny clifton] #7299076
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Pawnee I have answered it. Many times. i guess you never noticed. You will just disagree so whats the point of answering again??

"If we who know God are so deluded why the animosity and aggression" You need thicker skin. I get tired of fairy tales. People continue to spout them so why would I not post my disbelief? Are you Christians the only ones who can tell people what they believe?

Why did you use the word aggression ? We must have a different idea of what aggression is.


Danny I believe you misunderstood. I’m just curious and never used the word aggression in my question. I’ve got plenty think skin and not try to fire you up. Just wanted to know.

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Originally Posted by Pawnee
Danny I’ve asked this before and to my best knowledge it was never answered. If you don’t believe in God where do you get your morals from? Not a trick question just curious. Thanks

My buddy a (messianic Jew) is a great apologist (apologetics) and debates high level people of various faith. A few years back he debated a well known atheist on this very topic. You can search for it under his name Mariano Grinbank. He has a lot of videos articles debates etc... online

A well know apologist and pastor James White has done a few of these debates too. It's worth taking the time to listen to them

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Re: Fake Dead Sea reporting [Re: Pawnee] #7299081
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Originally Posted by Pawnee
Danny I’ve asked this before and to my best knowledge it was never answered. If you don’t believe in God where do you get your morals from? Not a trick question just curious. Thanks


This sounds like you are saying that those that believe in god do not know the difference between right and wrong, that they need to be told what is right and what is wrong.

I guess some people are born knowing right from wrong and others need a how to be a better person book.


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Re: Fake Dead Sea reporting [Re: rex123] #7299083
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Originally Posted by rex123
You see no harm? So someone say's they can sleep with someone of the same sex not repent of it and not call it a sin and it's okay?


Yup. None of my business what happens in somebody else's bedroom. They can take it up with God if they want to. Up to them.

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Originally Posted by Jerry Jr.


This sounds like you are saying that those that believe in god do not know the difference between right and wrong, that they need to be told what is right and what is wrong.

I guess some people are born knowing right from wrong and others need a how to be a better person book.


You haven't been around to many toddlers, have you?

Any amount of time with a toddler will demonstrate that no one is born knowing right from wrong. It is our inherent nature to do wrong.

Or you can just click on the TV for further proof.


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These threads always get interesting. It's funny how a small amount of grey matter can twist and turn such a simple question into a convoluted series of ideas, theories, conspiracies and dogmas.

The question is quite simple, as it was put to Peter.

Who do you say that I am?

My faith alone is that of the thief, remember me my Lord when you come into your kingdom.


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I thought it was a little more than lip service . I thought you had to live.

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How long did the thief have to live it out?

Not to make light of it because of course faith without works is dead but faith alone comes first. No amount of works alone can buy the golden ticket.

And if that was a reference to my own works, I freely admit I am not as hard a worker as I should be.


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Originally Posted by Jerry Jr.
Originally Posted by Pawnee
Danny I’ve asked this before and to my best knowledge it was never answered. If you don’t believe in God where do you get your morals from? Not a trick question just curious. Thanks


This sounds like you are saying that those that believe in god do not know the difference between right and wrong, that they need to be told what is right and what is wrong.

I guess some people are born knowing right from wrong and others need a how to be a better person book.


Lets suppose a child is born in a Jungle among a tribe of cannibals. Do you suppose the child would see any thing wrong with eating a passing stranger ?

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