...All flesh is grass........but the Word of our God will stand forever.
Isaiah 40:6

We all must keep the faith! Soon, the Word of God will be seen to the masses; as well as many modern day believers as an archaic writing open for interpretation. It is already happening.
It will be rough times, but we must hold strong and always know that our Creator keeps His word and that Jesus (and He alone) is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.

Mind if I ask you if you're a pre or post tribulation rapture adherent?

What happened to all of the souls of those who died before it was known that one must take God as their Savior in order to make it into Heaven?

The skin that God used to replace the fig leaves was a sign of future redemption. Animal sacrifice was unto the coming of the sacrifice of Jesus. Animal blood does not equal a man's blood only the coming sacrifice of the coming 2nd Adam could equally match that of the 1st Adam. Thus fulfilling the law of life for life, blood for blood.

When Jesus descended into the depths he brought all those out. My understanding is they will be guest at the marriage of Jesus and His church. I'm open to further enlightenment.

I read the KJV and NKJV version and compared it with the The Annals of the World by James Ussher with a seeking mind and heart. Mr. Ussher doesn't appear to be corrupted by anyone. If your looking for proof through a study of history by multiple historians not connected to one another, this is the sourc
[quote=Foxpaw]Well after 5 pages we may have finally got back to my original point, which was about changing the miracle of feeding the multitudes with bread and fish to bread and grapes.
I have seen some vegetarians claim that animals were only to be eaten on Noah's Ark and that after the trip was over and the land appeared they were to go back to being vegetarians. I've also heard some say in bible study that God did not kill the animal for the skin to replace the fig leaves, but since sin came into the world the animals just died and therefore that's where He got the skin from. Since they also claim the animals didn't eat one another until long after Noah turned them loose by pairs because they would have ate some species out of existence.

There was some of the Jerusalem Talmud that had a law that said you can't eat a limb off a live animal. If it wasn't alright to eat a dead one then why have that law. (Of which some say reverts to period in the Garden).
There was also laws requiring the draining of the blood, thus not eating a live animal, therefore being humane.

And of course there was that trip Peter took down to the tanners house.

So I guess they can say Noah didn't catch and eat fish on his trek or that Jesus did not eat fish on any of His. blah, blah.

Gen 4
3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord.

4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering:

I think I will eat a hamburger for supper and help get rid of some of those carbon polluting cows.

I've been doing some reading in particular about Jesus and His miracles. While I was searching for the one miracle where Jesus was working for a famed grape juice company making grape juice, I ran into some articles that think Josephus got a lot wrong about the Essene's and some of the scrolls and the later Greek writings of the era. One particular flaw they say was about the miracle where Jesus fed the multitude with a few loaves of bread and a couple of fish. They are saying it was bread and few clusters of grapes. They reason the Romans were meat eaters and to justify their horrendous act they changed the grapes to fish.
I love it when a reporter 2000 years from the scene knows more than one closer to the scene. PETA and their cronies are driving head on with their anti meat campaign and intend to chop the tree out by the roots regardless how fishy it smells.

dont forget the bible your so fond of was created by emporer constantine. his goal was to unite his empire under one religion. its why christianity has so many pagan roots. it was the only way to get all them to accept the new religion.


fwiw im not mocking anything.

those who say what they are taught today is the same faith taught before emporer constantine need to do a little more research. IF there are any original gospels still around the vatican has them locked in their library and very few ever read them.

People, at least most people, choose and defend the religion their parents and community are a part of. We have a few Budhists in the U.S. a few Muslims also, but not many. In Japan there are very few Christians and in India there are not many Jews. That is another truth that few want to contemplate.

Jesus worked for a grape juice company?