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A will entry from 1698 #7302953
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Our family on the Cody side were early immigrants to the new America.
The type of life these ancestors had can be sensed from their last will and testaments (aptly named).
What they believed in as they parted this life.
I enjoy these traditional perspectives as these were the pioneers that built this land;
I have not changed any spellings.
This was a different time in our land for sure than where we stand today.

In the Name of God, Amen. I, Phillip Coady of Hopkinton, in the County of Middlesex and province of the Matichusetts Bay, in New England Husbandman being aged & weak in Body, but Sound in Mind & Memory, thanks be to God therefor, and calling to mind my mortality and not knowing how soon I shall die Do this day being the tenth day of August in the year of our Redemption Seven _teen hundred & thirty Nine, make this my last will & Testament, first rendering my Soul into the hands of a Merciful God hoping for Salvation thro the Merits of my blessed Savior. and my body to the Ground to be buried in a Christian & decent manner according to the direction of my Executors hereafter named, hoping to receive it in the general Resurrection of the Righteous; and for such Worldly Estates as it has pleased Almighty God to bestow upon me, I give bequeath & bestow in Manner following;

Blessings,
Mark


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Re: A will entry from 1698 [Re: Mark June] #7302965
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What day did Phillip pass away after making that will ?

Re: A will entry from 1698 [Re: Northof50] #7302972
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Originally Posted by Northof50
What day did Phillip pass away after making that will ?


Not sure. I'd need the family genealogy book in front of me for exact years. They were from the Isle of Jersey off the coast of France, although they spoke English and attended Anglican Church. The original farmstead in Massachusetts was probated for some fifty years I think because a probate judge signed a document in 1747 and Philip died not long after this will entry in 1698 as I recall. They came to MA in 1636 with several children but only two survived the boat trip. Philip lived to a pretty ripe old age.

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Re: A will entry from 1698 [Re: Mark June] #7302974
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Family bibles do hold lots of facts that sure do need " up front" viewing for clarifications.

Re: A will entry from 1698 [Re: Mark June] #7302977
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Originally Posted by Mark June
Originally Posted by Northof50
What day did Phillip pass away after making that will ?


Not sure. I'd need the family genealogy book in front of me for exact years. They were from the Isle of Jersey off the coast of France, although they spoke English and attended Anglican Church. The original farmstead in Massachusetts was probated for some fifty years I think because a probate judge signed a document in 1747 and Philip died not long after this will entry in 1698 as I recall. They came to MA in 1636 with several children but only two survived the boat trip. Philip lived to a pretty ripe old age.

Blessings,
Mark

Doesn't the will say it was recorded in 1739?

Re: A will entry from 1698 [Re: Mark June] #7302985
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pretty cool, Mark!

my great great great great grandfather came over in 1742 as a boy (nine years old)

(and I thought *WE* were "early")


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Re: A will entry from 1698 [Re: Mark June] #7303043
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'Thanks for posting Mark. Like Pike River said "appears" to have been recorded in 1739; how does that square with 1698?

Whatever answer to above is would be nice to see what the man willed out to others unless too long to post. Be interesting to know what people owned in those days.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_witch_trials

This was going on about the same time. i dont want to go back to that level of crazy


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_witch_trials

This was going on about the same time. i dont want to go back to that level of crazy



We're close

Re: A will entry from 1698 [Re: crosspatch] #7303059
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Originally Posted by crosspatch
Whatever answer to above is would be nice to see what the man willed out to others unless too long to post. Be interesting to know what people owned in those days.


I'll try to post mine later, from1807-ish...

one thing (off the top of my head) that my great, great, great, great grandfather willed to his wife was the bed they slept in. I think there was a cow mentioned (with stipulations on how the milk was to be divvied up); and a teapot...



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"necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." William Pitt the Younger
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Originally Posted by Squaretimber
Originally Posted by danny clifton
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_witch_trials

This was going on about the same time. i dont want to go back to that level of crazy



We're close

Boys competing in women's sports and using women's facilities is on its own level. There have been evils and wrongs committed by every generation(past and future) and there are extremists and evil people in about every group. Even us trappers have our bad apples.

Re: A will entry from 1698 [Re: Mark June] #7303090
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Boys competing in women's sports and using women's facilities is on its own level


Mental illness is not new. I agree that whats being done about this one is kinda out there.

Mental health as a medical profession is a new science. Untill just a few decades ago the mentally ill were just locked up in deplorable conditions. Chained to walls for example. Trying to treat it is so new we dont have effective treatment for many of the different illnesses. The effective treatments involve drugs that have a lot of bad side effects. Patients tend not to take them when given a choice.

I dont see the relationship though to killing people over superstition.


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Paranoia?

Re: A will entry from 1698 [Re: Mark June] #7303157
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They had to write religious stuff like that or they would be burnt at the stake.
Probably why they were run out of their own country-religious zealots.

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Originally Posted by Boco
They had to write religious stuff like that or they would be burnt at the stake.


or maybe that's who they were...


"necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." William Pitt the Younger
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Originally Posted by Boco
They had to write religious stuff like that or they would be burnt at the stake.
Probably why they were run out of their own country-religious zealots.

If Mark gave you a penny for your thoughts,,,he would need change back. grin


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That's interesting Mark. Thanks for sharing it, I appreciate it.


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Your in a sad state and unless you accept The Lord Jesus, confess and forsake your sins, the Bible says you will burn in (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman)
Iím sorry for you Boco

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Originally Posted by upstateNY
Originally Posted by Boco
They had to write religious stuff like that or they would be burnt at the stake.
Probably why they were run out of their own country-religious zealots.

If Mark gave you a penny for your thoughts,,,he would need change back. grin


But there are no pennies left in Canada, so how could this happen.

Oh the tax man showed no mercy back in those days.

to get back to the subject

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Except what Boco wrote is true. Many people fled Europe because of religious persecution then persecuted anybody who Didnt believe the way they did. Its historical fact and well documented. There are many zealots, of many different religions, who still would like to do a little persecuting


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