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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7311918
07/23/21 05:49 AM
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Looks like a nice trap.

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7311920
07/23/21 06:02 AM
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I handled one today at the NTA. Looks to be a decent trap, but in my opinion will need baseplated. Not very heavy at all, wonder how they will hold up especially if 4 coiled.

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: LDW] #7312163
07/23/21 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by LDW
I handled one today at the NTA. Looks to be a decent trap, but in my opinion will need baseplated. Not very heavy at all, wonder how they will hold up especially if 4 coiled.

Isnt that the same gusseted frame as a MB 550...only larger? Do 550s need baseplating if 4 coiled? Baseplating those would eliminate being able to dismantle the trap to replace and repair parts.


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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Marathon] #7312170
07/23/21 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Marathon
Looks to be pushing 6 5/8". That lets PA trappers out.

PA goes by outside jaw spread? I was looking at that as 5 1/2-5 5/8" and thinking it would be better if an inch wider. Of course here are only jaw regs are 9" or smaller inside jaw spread.

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7312194
07/23/21 02:08 PM
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Do you ever read these threads and say "great, now I have to buy more traps that I don't really need"?

Maybe I am the only one.

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Bob] #7312206
07/23/21 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob
Still wish they’d come out with a #3 size dog on like that. Never have been a fan of dogless traps


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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: bearcat2] #7312215
07/23/21 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bearcat2
Originally Posted by Marathon
Looks to be pushing 6 5/8". That lets PA trappers out.

PA goes by outside jaw spread? I was looking at that as 5 1/2-5 5/8" and thinking it would be better if an inch wider. Of course here are only jaw regs are 9" or smaller inside jaw spread.

Yup. 6 1/2" measured to the outside of the jaws.

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7312225
07/23/21 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by LDW
I handled one today at the NTA. Looks to be a decent trap, but in my opinion will need baseplated. Not very heavy at all, wonder how they will hold up especially if 4 coiled.

Isnt that the same gusseted frame as a MB 550...only larger? Do 550s need baseplating if 4 coiled? Baseplating those would eliminate being able to dismantle the trap to replace and repair parts.


Nail on the head.

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7312239
07/23/21 03:33 PM
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If you were worried about the baseplate it would be a simple thing get longer bolts and fab up another chunk of strap steel to bolt on. I think it’s probably unnecessary though.


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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7312256
07/23/21 04:18 PM
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I ran the the protos 4 coiled for 3 years with up to #2 music wire springs without any distortion. They performed best for me with the standard 550 helpers and JC Conners lightning springs designed for 550s. I used not be a fan off dogless till I used them. wink Thanks to Rob Caven and Tom Stalker and a bunch of other trappers and of coarse the coyotes, the Alpha is a reality

Its an awsome tool, but Ima a bit partial LOL
Thanks for the interest


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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7312268
07/23/21 04:54 PM
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I believe the bases are 550 bases. Same size

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Blaine County] #7312271
07/23/21 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Do you ever read these threads and say "great, now I have to buy more traps that I don't really need"?

Maybe I am the only one.

Yes. Then the wallet and the dozens of traps I haven't used for years for coyotes glare accusingly at me.

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Blaine County] #7312303
07/23/21 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Do you ever read these threads and say "great, now I have to buy more traps that I don't really need"?

Maybe I am the only one.

Yup, but for some reason the good Lord didn't give me enough brains to say no sometimes lol


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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Marathon] #7312307
07/23/21 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Marathon
Looks to be pushing 6 5/8". That lets PA trappers out.

Yup Here in NY 5 3/4 inch inside Max on land. 7 1/4 inside Max in water


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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7312398
07/23/21 08:19 PM
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In terms of "copying" of the mb550..... isn't victor the original creator of the conibear style trap? If so I guess Duke, Bridger, MB, Belisle, LDL, and Sauvageau copied victor. Same thing right?
They are just following in footsteps of success. Copying is another form of flattery.

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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7312424
07/23/21 09:11 PM
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How is the pricing?

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: BTLowry] #7312425
07/23/21 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BTLowry
How is the pricing?


Saw someone say they got a dozen for $279

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7312637
07/24/21 02:45 AM
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They quoted me 294.00 for the 4 coil and 269.00 for the two coil when available I’m pretty sure.

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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7312663
07/24/21 07:02 AM
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Since it's a concern, lets just ask trappergbus, since he seems to have a bunch and be familiar with them and the Caven's. What is the official inside jawspread on these? Are they legal in PA?

Probably beats looking at a phone snapped pic of a tape measure.

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7312772
07/24/21 10:23 AM
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Just measured mine with a steel ruler to get an accurate measurement, 5 9/16th inside 6 9/16th outside, 6 3/16th hinge to hinge. I guess the question is how stringent is the PA restriction?
Same frame as the 550, basically the same footprint.
2coil 279.00
4coil 294.00


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