Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS*
[Re: LDW]
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07/23/21 12:56 PM
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I handled one today at the NTA. Looks to be a decent trap, but in my opinion will need baseplated. Not very heavy at all, wonder how they will hold up especially if 4 coiled. Isnt that the same gusseted frame as a MB 550...only larger? Do 550s need baseplating if 4 coiled? Baseplating those would eliminate being able to dismantle the trap to replace and repair parts.
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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS*
[Re: Marathon]
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07/23/21 01:07 PM
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Looks to be pushing 6 5/8". That lets PA trappers out. PA goes by outside jaw spread? I was looking at that as 5 1/2-5 5/8" and thinking it would be better if an inch wider. Of course here are only jaw regs are 9" or smaller inside jaw spread.
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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS*
[Re: Bob]
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07/23/21 02:23 PM
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Still wish they’d come out with a #3 size dog on like that. Never have been a fan of dogless traps Yes, yes, yes. Mac
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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS*
[Re: bearcat2]
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07/23/21 02:44 PM
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Looks to be pushing 6 5/8". That lets PA trappers out. PA goes by outside jaw spread? I was looking at that as 5 1/2-5 5/8" and thinking it would be better if an inch wider. Of course here are only jaw regs are 9" or smaller inside jaw spread. Yup. 6 1/2" measured to the outside of the jaws.
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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS*
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
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07/23/21 03:13 PM
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I handled one today at the NTA. Looks to be a decent trap, but in my opinion will need baseplated. Not very heavy at all, wonder how they will hold up especially if 4 coiled. Isnt that the same gusseted frame as a MB 550...only larger? Do 550s need baseplating if 4 coiled? Baseplating those would eliminate being able to dismantle the trap to replace and repair parts. Nail on the head.
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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS*
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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07/23/21 03:33 PM
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If you were worried about the baseplate it would be a simple thing get longer bolts and fab up another chunk of strap steel to bolt on. I think it’s probably unnecessary though.
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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS*
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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07/23/21 04:18 PM
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I ran the the protos 4 coiled for 3 years with up to #2 music wire springs without any distortion. They performed best for me with the standard 550 helpers and JC Conners lightning springs designed for 550s. I used not be a fan off dogless till I used them. Thanks to Rob Caven and Tom Stalker and a bunch of other trappers and of coarse the coyotes, the Alpha is a reality Its an awsome tool, but Ima a bit partial LOL Thanks for the interest
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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS*
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07/23/21 04:59 PM
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Do you ever read these threads and say "great, now I have to buy more traps that I don't really need"?
Maybe I am the only one. Yes. Then the wallet and the dozens of traps I haven't used for years for coyotes glare accusingly at me.
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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS*
[Re: Blaine County]
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07/23/21 05:58 PM
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Do you ever read these threads and say "great, now I have to buy more traps that I don't really need"?
Maybe I am the only one. Yup, but for some reason the good Lord didn't give me enough brains to say no sometimes lol
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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS*
[Re: Marathon]
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07/23/21 06:10 PM
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Looks to be pushing 6 5/8". That lets PA trappers out. Yup Here in NY 5 3/4 inch inside Max on land. 7 1/4 inside Max in water
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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS*
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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07/23/21 08:19 PM
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In terms of "copying" of the mb550..... isn't victor the original creator of the conibear style trap? If so I guess Duke, Bridger, MB, Belisle, LDL, and Sauvageau copied victor. Same thing right? They are just following in footsteps of success. Copying is another form of flattery.
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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS*
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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07/24/21 02:45 AM
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They quoted me 294.00 for the 4 coil and 269.00 for the two coil when available I’m pretty sure.
Last edited by yoteguts; 07/24/21 02:45 AM.
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More trappin' and less yappin'.
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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS*
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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07/24/21 10:23 AM
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Just measured mine with a steel ruler to get an accurate measurement, 5 9/16th inside 6 9/16th outside, 6 3/16th hinge to hinge. I guess the question is how stringent is the PA restriction? Same frame as the 550, basically the same footprint. 2coil 279.00 4coil 294.00
Common sense catches alot of fur.. Pay homage to all you harvest..
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