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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Marathon] #7313573
07/25/21 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Marathon
Looks to be pushing 6 5/8". That lets PA trappers out.


yep...missed a major market; by about a 1/16th of an inch or thereabouts. 1/8 inch to be certain.

Last edited by white marlin; 07/25/21 06:05 PM.

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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: white marlin] #7313593
07/25/21 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by Marathon
Looks to be pushing 6 5/8". That lets PA trappers out.


yep...missed a major market; by about a 1/16th of an inch or thereabouts. 1/8 inch to be certain.

I agree. Ill probably buy a dozen and grind a 1/16th off the jaws to be legal but with "all of the thought and testing" that I keep hearing went into these im surprised they missed a big trapping state in PA. And why only offset?

Last edited by patrapper1989; 07/25/21 06:14 PM.
Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7313623
07/25/21 07:03 PM
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Did you test using screen and how were they in mud conditions ? How far below the jaw is the pan tab / notch ?

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7313763
07/25/21 10:03 PM
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Handled them at the NTA. Will stick with the Jakes.

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: white marlin] #7314041
07/26/21 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by Marathon
Looks to be pushing 6 5/8". That lets PA trappers out.


yep...missed a major market; by about a 1/16th of an inch or thereabouts. 1/8 inch to be certain.

Wow! You guys must have game wardenís running around with tape measures and miccrometers in their pockets! LoL! In the south GW aint that picky. Will let 1/8 th in or more slide! Will say = Well its just a coyote. Anyway. Its a nice looking trap! I have 200 MB 550ís. They are a quaility product. I am sure the Alpha will be too!!!

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7314047
07/26/21 08:58 AM
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Wow! You guys must have game wardenís running around with tape measures and miccrometers in their pockets! LoL! In the south GW aint that picky. Will let 1/8 th in or more slide! Will say = Well its just a coyote. Anyway. Its a nice looking trap! I have 200 MB 550ís. They are a quaility product. I am sure the Alpha will be too!!! [/quote]
it has nothing to due with them checking you on the line its when someones pet gets caught in a trap and they call in the law thats when the tape measures come out even though you may be in the right to be trapping there usually the pet owner demands action but if your in full compliance of the law or better not your fault

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7314064
07/26/21 09:20 AM
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Iím not sweating the 1/16 a flapper disc can fix that in about ten seconds and wonít make the trap look any different if done right or I bet once set if you push in on the jaws there enough wiggle room in the frame eyes where the jaws hook into, that 1/16 of a inch comes into tolerance. Some k9 extremes with that custom ground lamination he puts on them push a 1/16th or more over. Easy fix if you really wanted to try the alpha out in PA.

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7314179
07/26/21 11:09 AM
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If the manufacturer publishes dimensions and the published dimensions are within regs I think you would be okay, as long as you don't do any homemade mods that could be construed as changing that. Without manufacturer published dimensions, yeah then it is going to be up to some warden with a pocket tape.

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: bearcat2] #7314274
07/26/21 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bearcat2
Since it's a concern, lets just ask trappergbus, since he seems to have a bunch and be familiar with them and the Caven's. What is the official inside jawspread on these? Are they legal in PA?

Probably beats looking at a phone snapped pic of a tape measure.


If the picture with the tape doesn't tell you the dimensions then you probably can't read a tape to begin with.
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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7314353
07/26/21 03:04 PM
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Sorry, when we are talking a 1/16" or less, a lot depends on the guy holding the tape. I can't tell in the picture if the camera is at a bit of an angle or the guy holding it has the tape lip up tight to the jaw or not. Especially on a nonsquare edged jaw like these it is hard enough to tell in person, much less a picture on a computer.

I used to survey and read a tape for a living, I'm perfectly capable, I also know how easy it is for one to be fudged off a little. And if there are official dimensions from the factory, those are what are going to be used to define it as legal or illegal in a state, not some guys picture of a tape measure on the internet.

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7314377
07/26/21 03:53 PM
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I looked at them. For the cost, I can't see any reason to choose these over the K.O.


If it makes a track on this earth , I can catch it.
Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7314840
07/27/21 08:41 AM
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We have the best trap options in the history of the paw hold. The Alpha is just one, there are many. If the Alpha fits your budget and style of trapping and jaw restrictions then its your decision.

For me its an easy decision but Im a bit bias since it was my idea LOL.. They'll be specs posted on The MTP website in September after they build stock.


Last edited by trappergbus; 07/27/21 04:57 PM.

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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7315326
07/27/21 08:13 PM
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Any idea where they're made?

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: kinley31] #7315385
07/27/21 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by kinley31
Any idea where they're made?

Same place as the regular MB 550's are.


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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: kinley31] #7315689
07/28/21 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by kinley31
Any idea where they're made?

Pennock Minnesota... I'm certain!


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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7315703
07/28/21 10:13 AM
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Happy BDay Gary! Good info on this topic...

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: 2rivers] #7315947
07/28/21 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 2rivers
Did you test using screen and how were they in mud conditions ? How far below the jaw is the pan tab / notch ?

Screen slides right in, stiff or soft. 1/8th below jaw. Mud no problem, I have a lot of that here and Rob tested them in wet red clay in Georgia without issues.

Last edited by trappergbus; 07/28/21 05:26 PM.

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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7316036
07/28/21 07:29 PM
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Really sounds like a great trap. Hope the sales are where you need them to be. Congratulations!!

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7316553
07/29/21 02:15 PM
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Is the tab that the pan sits on rounded or square? If it is square how long does it take for it to become rounded?

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: rattrapper1234] #7316665
07/29/21 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rattrapper1234
Is the tab that the pan sits on rounded or square? If it is square how long does it take for it to become rounded?

The tab is square and its casted in the cast jaw not welded the protos Iv'e used for 3 years show no wear.


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