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Re: Mark of the beast [Re: waggler] #7318020
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Originally Posted by waggler
Originally Posted by Staner
Can prayer change things?

The effectual, fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

I believe that...seems like I read it somewhere. smile

Not according to a Calvinist.
(BTW that's one of the many reasons I'm not a Calvinist).


I'm a staunch Calvinist and pray all the time for various and sundry things...people included.

Re: Mark of the beast [Re: danny clifton] #7318035
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
there is nothing about christianity that makes any sense at all to me. i was raised to believe it and did till i was about 12

In honestness there's a lot of stuff in this world I don't understand therefore it doesn't make sense to me, but it doesn't change that it's real. I can't grasp the idea how I can set here in my living room typing on a smart phone and in less than 5 minutes someone on the other side of the world can be reading my thoughts, and this is happening millions of times a second in this world maybe billions. I think there's two reasons most turn their back to God the first is they just don't want rules restricting what they want to do, and second they have suffered a pain in their lives that causes them to be angry with God and therefore chose to end the relationship. The more I study God's words the more amazed at how logical it is and how much truth is in it. Especially about the heart and mind of human beings. And to think it was all written by what we believe were "primitive" people only points me more towards God. We have to study things to understand them.

One last thought miracles are called miracles because they defy natural law. And a God that could create this whole world would have no struggle doing what we call miracles.

Re: Mark of the beast [Re: jbyrd63] #7318115
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The Bible was revealed for us to know God. Divinely Inspired and inerrant in its original writings.
The section from the Apostle Paul's letter to believers in Corinth is illuminating for believers and not so for others;

For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written,
“I WILL DESTROY THE WISDOM OF THE WISE, AND THE CLEVERNESS OF THE CLEVER I WILL SET ASIDE.”
Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?
For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
For indeed Jews ask for signs and Greeks search for wisdom.


Not too much has really changed in humans in 2000 years. Folks still wanting miracles and folks still seek wisdom to figure faith out.
We're told it doesn't operate that way.

Side note: Scribes in this recorded era were.........
Attorneys wink laugh smile

Blessings,
Mark


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Re: Mark of the beast [Re: Posco] #7318133
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Originally Posted by Posco

How familiar are you with the Bible? Scale of 1 to 10.


I have recieved my sacraments-recieved my spiritual seal in Knowledge and righeousness.Affirmed and Confirmed.

You being a proddy likely have not.

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Re: Mark of the beast [Re: Boco] #7318135
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Originally Posted by Boco
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How familiar are you with the Bible? Scale of 1 to 10.


I have recieved my sacraments-recieved my spiritual seal in Knowledge and righeousness.Affirmed and Confirmed.

You being a proddy likely have not.


So a priest told you were good-to-go but what sort of Bible knowledge do you have? Do you read it?

Re: Mark of the beast [Re: jbyrd63] #7318138
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Stop being sacreligious-Read my bible Inside and out.Since it was presented to me at my holy Confirmation.So I take it you have not been baptized?Since you seem to flippantly denigrate the sacraments?Or did you proddys only decide to keep some of the seven sacraments that suited you?
And I bet my bible is bigger than yours.

Re: Mark of the beast [Re: Boco] #7318141
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Originally Posted by Boco
Stop being sacreligious-Read my bible Inside and out.Since it was presented to me at my holy Confirmation.So I take it you have not been baptized?Since you seem to flippantly denigrate the sacraments?Or did you proddys only decide to keep some of the seven sacraments that suited you?
And I bet my bible is bigger than yours.


In all honesty I would never have guessed this at all. The only thing I have ever read you post had me believing you were anti God. Not trying to be smart or offend you but am being truthful. LLL


Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
Re: Mark of the beast [Re: Boco] #7318144
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Originally Posted by Boco
And I bet my bible is bigger than yours.


compensating?


"necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." William Pitt the Younger
Re: Mark of the beast [Re: jbyrd63] #7318146
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Not at all anti god.Family Is irish Catholic.Deeply rooted if you know anything at all about the Irish culture.
Just dont feel the need to preach.

Re: Mark of the beast [Re: Boco] #7318159
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Originally Posted by Boco
Stop being sacreligious-Read my bible Inside and out.Since it was presented to me at my holy Confirmation.So I take it you have not been baptized?Since you seem to flippantly denigrate the sacraments?Or did you proddys only decide to keep some of the seven sacraments that suited you?
And I bet my bible is bigger than yours.

I'm not an adherent to the RC belief, there too many extra-biblical things going on with it that can't be defended from scripture.

Re: Mark of the beast [Re: jbyrd63] #7318173
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A quick read of some of the letters of the apostles will show you that the early church faced the same problem that we’re exhibiting here. Paul certainly took issue with division within the body of Christ. Read Ephesians. Catholic or Protestant, we’re on the same team. We don’t need to waste our time fighting about who has the best version of Christianity. We can disagree on some things, but there’s no need for personal attacks. I was enjoying the conversation on the Mark, but I think that ship sank.

Re: Mark of the beast [Re: jbyrd63] #7318179
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Talk about extra Biblical. How about the last two lines the Protestants added to the Our Father?

Jim

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Re: Mark of the beast [Re: James] #7318197
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Originally Posted by James
Talk about extra Biblical. How about the last two lines the Protestants added to the Our Father. Jim


you mean "the Lord's Prayer"?


"necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." William Pitt the Younger
Re: Mark of the beast [Re: jbyrd63] #7318200
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And big old fat king henry creating his own church of england so he could divorce and get married 6 times,lol.
There is still people that follow that bastardized version.
They should all sleep with the dust of Huss.

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Re: Mark of the beast [Re: Providence Farm] #7318222
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by charles
My religious beliefs and my medical opinions are not interconnected. No minister has guided me on medical decisions. It is not his job. I have a trusted medical team.

This virus is not God's work. Knowledge of how to defeat it is what God has given us. God loves us. Do not fear His love. Do not assume He is sending us diseases.



God did not send it. It was man made in a lab.

BUT he did give whomever made it the power and knowledge to do it !!! One and the same

Re: Mark of the beast [Re: jbyrd63] #7318224
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Dang after reading this I'm glad I started it. PLUS no where near the back lash and telling me I'm crazy or smoking dope. !!!

Re: Mark of the beast [Re: Boco] #7318490
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Originally Posted by Boco
Not at all anti god.Family Is irish Catholic.Deeply rooted if you know anything at all about the Irish culture.
Just dont feel the need to preach.


Well glad you are not anti God. Don't know a whole lot about Irish culture but my bible teaches to preach the Gospel at every chance. Some do not have the gift of preaching or teaching so again no offense meant. Now that I know you are not opposed to Christ I like you a bit more. LLL


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Re: Mark of the beast [Re: jht] #7318509
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Originally Posted by jht
We can disagree on some things, but there’s no need for personal attacks. I was enjoying the conversation on the Mark, but I think that ship sank.


How does one contend for the faith without stepping on someone's toes? We're commanded to contend for the faith. Making someone uncomfortable by telling them they're wrong or applying the truth isn't a personal attack.

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Prayer is our on demand 24 hour hotline call that goes directly to the Creator of the Universe. Not only does He hear it; He FEELS it. Not a doubt in my mind, that he not only hears our prayers, but feels them.

Re: Mark of the beast [Re: Posco] #7318585
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Originally Posted by Posco
Originally Posted by jht
We can disagree on some things, but there’s no need for personal attacks. I was enjoying the conversation on the Mark, but I think that ship sank.


How does one contend for the faith without stepping on someone's toes? We're commanded to contend for the faith. Making someone uncomfortable by telling them they're wrong or applying the truth isn't a personal attack.


Attacking someone's argument or belief is far different from attacking them personally.

Personal attacks only discredit yourself, and perhaps more importantly to you, your faith.

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