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Re: Trapping canoe question [Re: coondagger2] #7327108
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Originally Posted by coondagger2
That is a great idea. Nessmuck, how far are you from Brielle, NJ? Might have found a good deal on a Wenonah there grin


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Re: Trapping canoe question [Re: coondagger2] #7327117
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Guy messaged me back, he sold it!! I like to look around in different regions on Craigslist and marketplace to find cool things. Looks like the northeast has a much better selection of used canoes than other regions


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Originally Posted by coondagger2
Guy messaged me back, he sold it!! I like to look around in different regions on Craigslist and marketplace to find cool things. Looks like the northeast has a much better selection of used canoes than other regions


Maine is the Grand Daddy of wooden canoes….and like you said ..all of New England has a lot of canoes


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Re: Trapping canoe question [Re: coondagger2] #7327127
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I found a mad river freedom solo on marketplace. 14’6”, 750 lb weight capacity. Narrower boat that supposedly paddles class 2’s well. It’s a royalex boat so it only weighs about 55 lb.

Obviously a well built boat due to the material, looks like it has plenty of room and weight capacity for the trapping I’ll be doing. Anyone have any experience with these?


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Re: Trapping canoe question [Re: coondagger2] #7327130
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I love canoes…here is my trout trolling canoe…21 feet long …holds over 2,000 pounds …called a Hudson Bay Freighter Canoe…15 hp 4 stroke Yamaha. While your on craigs list of FB …look up “ Grand Laker Canoe” …those are made in Maine and are beautiful !

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Re: Trapping canoe question [Re: coondagger2] #7327152
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It doesn't take a lot of coon or beaver to add up to a lot of weight and those smaller canoes can't carry much weight and get low in the water very quickly. I think you may be better off with a full size canoe.

If you're worried about dragging the weight, you can buy a canoe dolly for $30.00 to $60.00, so that you can easily roll your canoe, even when loaded down with equipment and catches.

You can get a truck hitch bed extender, so you don't have to use a trailer, or lift the canoe high. I have one and it works great. They're also useful for carrying longer lumber and ladders.

I bought a 1976 Sea Nymph canoe on my 20th birthday over 32 years ago, that I still have. I probably have put 5000 or 6000 miles on it. . I just bought a 1974 Grumman canoe last week.

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Re: Trapping canoe question [Re: KeithC] #7327270
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Originally Posted by KeithC
It doesn't take a lot of coon or beaver to add up to a lot of weight and those smaller canoes can't carry much weight and get low in the water very quickly. I think you may be better off with a full size canoe.

If you're worried about dragging the weight, you can buy a canoe dolly for $30.00 to $60.00, so that you can easily roll your canoe, even when loaded down with equipment and catches.

You can get a truck hitch bed extender, so you don't have to use a trailer, or lift the canoe high. I have one and it works great. They're also useful for carrying longer lumber and ladders.

I bought a 1976 Sea Nymph canoe on my 20th birthday over 32 years ago, that I still have. I probably have put 5000 or 6000 miles on it. . I just bought a 1974 Grumman canoe last week.

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Awesome! If I go this route I'm definitely going to need two boats, but it seems like when you get something that is okay at everything its not good at anything.

Guess I need a kayak for the summertime trips fishing and paddling the mountain rivers and a larger canoe for trapping and duck hunting in the winter


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Re: Trapping canoe question [Re: coondagger2] #7327316
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Raddison canoe. Been hunting and trapping from a 14 footer since 1993 and never felt like I was gonna tip. Very stable and light. Can pull beavers and dogs up over the side with no problems

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Originally Posted by Muskeg
Raddison canoe. Been hunting and trapping from a 14 footer since 1993 and never felt like I was gonna tip. Very stable and light. Can pull beavers and dogs up over the side with no problems


I found a couple sportspals up north. Haven't seen a sportspal or raddison for sale around me unfortunately


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A northeastern 14.5 it's wide and stable.


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Re: Trapping canoe question [Re: Nessmuck] #7327370
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With all that steel you plan on setting…your going to need a biggah canoe. This 16 foot old town will hold north of 1200 lbs….but it weights 75 pounds…Not a problem for a young strapping lad…..


Nothing beats an old wood canvas. Take it from someone that has canoed many many miles on the trapline. You need a 16 or 18 foot canoe and throw those paddles away. Stand up and pole like a real trapper. I mostly worked down stream but it is 1000 times better to pole up stream and down stream through any rough water. I only ever tipped over one time and that was when my pole broke easing my way down stream through some rough water.

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Get one with low ends, They were called guide or trappers model for a reason.

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Re: Trapping canoe question [Re: Nessmuck] #7327390
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Thanks for the kind comments. I use a couple of these “Swiss Water Bags” when paddling alone . I fill them up with water and lay them up front. And if you have a bunch of critters at the end of the trip….you can just empty the water bags …and they lay flat and take up no room.


The low budget alternative is a five gallon plastic bucket. Works as ballast up front when needed, and converts to a critter carrier by the end of the trip.

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Once I expanded my horizons a little bit I found the world of solo canoes to be a lot larger. Looked at the Bell, Wenonah, and Mad River boats. I think these are a great option for me for my uses. Nimble enough to paddle in the New River class II's and enough weight capacity to trap out of.

I actually have found a wenonah wilderness and a mad river freedom solo for sale used. Both are around 50 pound boats that will transport easily, the wenonah is 15' and the mad river is 14'6". Both can haul 700+ pounds, which should be plenty of capacity for my needs (estimated around 550 lb with me, critters, and gear).

I think going this route may be the only way I don't end up with two boats


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Also check out Old Town's Pathfinder...it comes in right around 15' and is about 50 lbs. Very manageable as a solo, and still good for two paddlers with gear.

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Originally Posted by Rat_Pack
Also check out Old Town's Pathfinder...it comes in right around 15' and is about 50 lbs. Very manageable as a solo, and still good for two paddlers with gear.


That would fit the bill as well if I could find an older royalex model! Didn't mention that both the Mad River and Wenonah I'm looking at are royalex modles


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Re: Trapping canoe question [Re: coondagger2] #7327440
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I would think seriously about a 14, 16 or even 17 foot canoe

my 17 foot old town paddles very well with one person will haul a lot of weight , is it the best ? probably not . it is what I have and I bought it when I was 20

I would take the seats out leave the thwarts in maybe even ad a thwart if I though it needed it should shed a couple pounds

then make a seat you can move where you want to get the right weight distribution

I have a cooler I sit on in the middle when I paddle alone in my 17

you kneel in a canoe if you really want to feel the water and be one with the the canoe that is a little harder on old knees I am sure.


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my Penobscot is Roylex , 67 pounds for a 17 foot is hard to beat

if you can find roylex it is nice


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I agree, the royalex is great stuff. The 15' wenonah wilderness only weighs 49lbs

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I ran a short canoe line a few years ago in early December. Waited for a storm front and set 20 dog proofs. Zero first 2 checks. 13 coon in the canoe once the front came and I pulled the line. All boars but 2. That canoe was really heavy at the end and I was exhausted. Beware of a successful run!!

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