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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7332622
08/17/21 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by James


So Biden should repudiate the agreement Trump signed, which said the US would not attack the Taliban and would leave Afghanistan?

Jim


Yes, because the Taliban has NOT held up their end of the agreement. Within a year of the agreement being made they've assassinated thousands of Afghans as well as journalists and contractors. The Taliban broke the terms of the deal, so the deal should be off.


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7332623
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The thing I don't understand is why we wouldn't have used our military to hold them out of Kabul until we were able to remove all of our weaponry, and evacuate whoever needed evacuating, and THEN let them have the city.

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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: yotetrapper30] #7332628
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by James


So Biden should repudiate the agreement Trump signed, which said the US would not attack the Taliban and would leave Afghanistan?

Jim


Yes, because the Taliban has NOT held up their end of the agreement. Within a year of the agreement being made they've assassinated thousands of Afghans as well as journalists and contractors. The Taliban broke the terms of the deal, so the deal should be off.


They agreed not to attack Americans. What term of the agreement did they break?

Would you send our troops back to fight and die for people who won't stand up for themselves?

Jim


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: James] #7332633
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted by James
Still no one with an idea of how to handle our withdrawal from Afghanistan?

What should we be doing instead of what we're doing now?

Jim


Perhaps you are being ignored on purpose. ROTFLMAO!


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You didn't do much of a job ignoring me, did you?

Jim


I enjoy you too much to ignore you. lol


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7332640
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The US and the Afghans worked in tandem with each other. They were the eyes and ears on the ground and we supplied them with full air support. Many places supplied by air only.

Fake president Biden stopped all maintenance contracts on aircraft and they left them with no air support maintenance.
No supplies means game over in war. They knew it.

The abrupt withdrawal in my opinion is the plan because they will now flood us with middle east refuges' fleeing the war. So we have open borders and fly them in too.

Biden is destroying America as fast as he can for the globalist who pull his strings.

Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: James] #7332646
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Originally Posted by James


They agreed not to attack Americans. What term of the agreement did they break?

Would you send our troops back to fight and die for people who won't stand up for themselves?

Jim


They agreed to intra-Afghan dialogue and negotiations with the current (or I guess I should say previous) Afghan leadership. I don't think murdering them in the streets is quite what Trump had in mind.


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7332655
08/17/21 07:54 PM
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James you are so gullible.I have a bridge that I would like to sell you. If you believe Biden I feel sorry for you!

Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7332657
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With everything else that is going on the logical conclusion is that the folks in charge are doing their best to destroy this country and are having some success. Next thing to fall after this show of utter incompetence, is the Ukraine and Indonesia.


Let's go Brandon

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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Scuba1] #7332676
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
With everything else that is going on the logical conclusion is that the folks in charge are doing their best to destroy this country and are having some success. Next thing to fall after this show of utter incompetence, is the Ukraine and Indonesia.


I couldn't care less about Ukraine or Indonesia either. Whatever you are worried about there is, again, not our problem.

No argument from me on the current administration. But we should be concerned about attacks on the 1A, 2A and destruction of our economy--here.

Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: James] #7332698
08/17/21 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by James
The President said:

"There was only a cold reality of either following through on the agreement to withdraw our forces or escalating the conflict and sending thousands more American troops back into combat in Afghanistan. Lurching into the third decade of conflict. I stand squarely behind my decision. After 20 years I’ve learned the hard way that there was never a good time to withdraw U.S. Forces. That’s why we’re still there. We were clear-eyed about the risk. We planned for every contingency. But I always promised the American people that I would be straight with you. The truth is this did unfold more quickly than we had anticipated.

"So what’s happened? Afghanistan’s political leaders gave up and fled the country. The Afghan military collapsed, sometimes without trying to fight. If anything, the developments in the past week reinforced that any U.S. Military involvement in Afghanistan now was the right decision. American troops cannot and should not be fighting in a war and dying in a war that Afghan forces are not willing to fight for themselves."

Darned if I can see what's so controversial about these words. Either we're going to pull out, or else continue to put our troops in harm's way and die for a people that won't stand up for themselves.

Nuking them has never been an option, and is ridiculous to mention.

Jim



What is controversial is that his very first sentence is a complete lie and many millions of Americans fell for it. Biden wants you to believe he had only two choices. A. Pull out right now.or B. Commit "thousands more American troops back into combat." Baloney !

Neither of those is true by itself but he also omitted choice C. Maintain the status quo with the 2500 troops already in country. No casualties in the last 18 months and no civilians trapped in the embassy or Afghan citizens in danger of reprisal from the Taliban. We would still control Bagram AFB rather than the Taliban controlling it while blocking access to the commercial airport.
Doing nothing was a completely viable alternative.

Meanwhile it would have provided time to plan a rational withdrawal of civilians first, from a completely secured air base....Bagram.

It would have also provided time to confer with allies rather than take unilateral, irresponsible action.

What we have now is complete chaos in country while Iran has stepped up hostile activities throughout the ME in the past week. Also China has taken the obvious signs of weakness and capitulation as permission to threaten Taiwan.

Homeland Security has said that the southern border is completely unsustainable ( this is Biden's guy saying this) and the retiring head of CBP saying today that KNOWN terrorists have been identified crossing the southern border.

How could this be any less controversial. If it weren't for the catastrophe waiting in the wings, I would be in favor of dusting off the 25th Amendment at this point. It should be obvious that Biden is not capable of making decisions that benefit the nation. At least not OUR nation.


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7332711
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How many American tax payer dollars has Biden promised the enemy of America ( Taliban ) to stand down while we pull out ?


Like Obama with Iran ..........we fund our enemies so they can kill us later


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: James] #7332712
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Originally Posted by James


Nuking them has never been an option, and is ridiculous to mention.

Jim


Should be nuking the entire Middle East. Sooner or later they will get the bomb over there and they are going to use it. Taking out the people that worship that evil religion would do nothing but help humanity in the short and long term. There is no such thing as a peaceful Muslim.


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7332715
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Yep , the southern border is an absolute disaster of epic proportions .

Biden and his cronies should be jailed for the irreparable damage to the United States of America.

People on here favoring an open border should be ashamed !


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7332716
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I caught a little of the CBS Evening News tonight. Even they had a few tough things to say about creepy joe. That right there is newsworthy.

Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7332720
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A slew of veterans are so angry over this whole wrong tactic from the Marxist left , they can hardly contain themselves. From every angle I hear and read .

I haven't seen this level of livid anger since Vietnam .

And they speak from experience .

This whole thing has been so fatally carried out it makes me really feel it all was done on purpose. Lots of info on the Generals in the Pentagon who have always done everything to keep war going, bringing in vast amounts of funds for themselves .

Tonight's show Tucker....he interviews people who are exposing even more depth of detail on this ...they call it the big lie for the past 20 years about what has really been transpiring in Afghanistan . Another eye-opener program.

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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7332729
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Ken, your choice C would have required a build-up of troops and they would have started dying again. The reason the Taliban held off on killing US troops was because of the deal Trump struck.

Do you think Trump consulted our allies before making that deal? Trump believed in consulting our enemies (Russia, N. Korea), not our allies. It's funny to hear Trump supporters complain about the current president not consulting allies.

I don't know whether the Taliban's murder of Afghani civilians is a breach of the Trump agreement. If it is, then I would fault Biden for not at least delaying our withdrawal further. He already delayed our withdrawal from the May date Trump agreed to.

The president's response to the southern border is a travesty, but it's not the subject of this thread. I don't see how we could discuss it without wandering pretty far afield.

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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7332731
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I would like to know why in twenty yrs we haven't reduced the Taliban to an insignificant number of sand monkeys.

This is a serious question to those with more knowledge of this so called war than me


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