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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: James] #7339019
08/25/21 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by Pawnee

It’s not about getting out it’s how you get out!


Our withdrawal was bumbled badly, but I don't see how, with the Taliban victorious over Afghan forces, it ever could have been pretty.

Jim


Maybe by not pulling the troops out before the civilians were out? Oh, and I don't know, keeping some people around to blow up any weaponry if the Afghan forces did flee? Because seriously how could anyone not know they would.


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7339022
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Leaving people behind to blow up every weapon dropped or abandoned by the Afghans probably wasn't feasible.

Getting all the civilians out first was part of what I meant by saying the withdrawal was bumbled badly.

Jim


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7339027
08/25/21 01:29 AM
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They have parked equipment in a circle before and called in an air strike. A thermite grenade down the gun tube will put it out of commission quick as well. At the very least they could of pulled chips out of the high tech weapons. Look at our mess with the new cars waiting on a chip from China.


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7339029
08/25/21 01:35 AM
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Didn't the Afghan troops do their el foldo on or near the battlefield? They probably dropped their weapons where they started running.

Have to agree with you about the high tech weapons, if someone was stupid enough to give them to the Afghans in the first place, we should have made sure they got destroyed.

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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: James] #7339037
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Originally Posted by James
Didn't the Afghan troops do their el foldo on or near the battlefield? They probably dropped their weapons where they started running.

Have to agree with you about the high tech weapons, if someone was stupid enough to give them to the Afghans in the first place, we should have made sure they got destroyed.

Jim

One thing for sure, the blame sure don't belong to the President this poster "didn't" vote for....


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7339051
08/25/21 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by white17
Just wait until ISIS puts a missile into a C17 loaded with civilians as it takes off on 8/31. What will Slow Joe do then ? Call Jimmy Carter ?


"Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake"
Sun Tzu

Why would the Taliban do anything other than let the U.S withdraw? Once the U.S is gone I'm sure they can have a nice little genocide and get about ruling as they please


As is typical DS is pretty astute. I agree with his thoughts because history houses that fact that the 20th century was the bloodiest century in human history when it comes to people killing other people. 37 million killed in wars and a staggering 187 million men, women, and children killed through genocide. Genocide requires more than an army. It requires an entire society to organize around the elimination of a particular group. That means everyday folk - just like us - kill each other. Cambodia, Tibet, Croatia, Bosnia, Jews in Germany, Nuers and Dinkas in the Sudan, Ibos in Nigeria, Mayans in Guatemala, Kurds in Iraq and Iran and Turkey, Hindus in Pakistan, "enemies of the state" in Russia and China and on and on and on.

All this isn't bad. It's pure evil and we cross a very dangerous historical line when we call for the elimination of any of our neighbors.
That plan, once started, unleashes the full fury of evil.
And since Americans are not culturally equipped at grieving well now, I can't imagine what that might look like in this 21st century.

Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7339073
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I dont believe the chaos in Afghanistan is a surprise to any in the U.S. government and military.

Anyone else wonder whats going on at our southern border?


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7339076
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Yeah, now that you mention it, Danny. What's going on at our southern border?

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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7339080
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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7339091
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Have a good friend that lives down there. Tens of thousands coming across daily. No idea who they are what diseases they have or what country they are from. No idea what agenda brought them. Anybody from any where that can get to Mexico are coming in unopposed .


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: danny clifton] #7339102
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I dont believe the chaos in Afghanistan is a surprise to any in the U.S. government and military.

Anyone else wonder whats going on at our southern border?


One way to divert attention from a bungled crisis is to create an even bigger bungled crisis.

Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7339103
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They have parked equipment in a circle before and called in an air strike. A thermite grenade down the gun tube will put it out of commission quick as well. At the very least they could of pulled chips out of the high tech weapons. Look at our mess with the new cars waiting on a chip from China.

Saw the helicopters all in a row as well as the small arms on several news stories. An ammo dump accident could go a long way on saving our troops lives if we have to go back in to gather our citizens as well.


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7339113
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democrat administrations are pretty good at abandoning their own in a war zone. So whoever is going to get stuck past the dead line date will find out why its called a dead line is my guess. Then give it a few month and everyone will have forgotten about it and go back to gun grabbing here and normal screw ups will resume .


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: walleye101] #7339208
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Originally Posted by danny clifton
I dont believe the chaos in Afghanistan is a surprise to any in the U.S. government and military.

Anyone else wonder whats going on at our southern border?


One way to divert attention from a bungled crisis is to create an even bigger bungled crisis.

Amen to that!


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7339880
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Just heard on the news that there has been an explosion at the airport in Kabul. Story still developing.

I am not a conspiracy theorist, but this situation is so bad and so blatantly mishandled; it must be intentional. Could it be possible that Biden or his administration may be getting blackmailed? Perhaps China has proof of evidence on Biden's sons laptop.....or perhaps they have absolute evidence of election fraud that shows that Trump really won and that they cheated. I know this sounds crazy, but how in the world can you explain this debacle? There is no way they are that incompetent!


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7339885
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The Dems are working on passing big spending bills to change the US and start many programs detrimental to our economy. Create a distraction, to achieve your agenda.

Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Canvasback2] #7339897
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Somebody knew the explosions were on the way....


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7339898
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None of this is sure not making Biden look good.

Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7339916
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf

Somebody knew the explosions were on the way....



Yep, they were warning to avoid the airport because they knew it was going to be attacked.. Sad that we are allowing terrorists to dictate to us what we can and cannot do.

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