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Re: Long-Chaining Beaver [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7346405
09/02/21 09:58 PM
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Thought about just taking the weight (brake rotors mostly) off when water too shallow too drown and put some sort of stop on end of chain to keep lock from sliding off. Anchor end at the set and just pitch the 10 foot chain into water.


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Re: Long-Chaining Beaver [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7346814
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Yep that should work. I imagine that a bolt a few inches long through the end link with some of those lock nuts would be fine or double the chain back at the last 6 or 8 inches bolt to itsself or a good wire tie job. Shoot for that matter if you have a pad lock laying around just put that on the last link options are endless.

Re: Long-Chaining Beaver [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7346859
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I tried this method using OGormans recommended 20' of chain,oh boy,did I have some adventures.Our rivers can be raging torrents in the spring with the snow melt,and lots of dead snags on bottom.Cut the chain down to 6',8',and 10',depending on water depth.


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Re: Long-Chaining Beaver [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7346864
09/03/21 01:34 PM
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Re: Long-Chaining Beaver [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7346865
09/03/21 01:36 PM
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Stake as deep as you can with about 10' of chain. Add some weight as close to the trap as possible. It's the way I have done It and I don't remember having to deal with any live beaver.


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Re: Long-Chaining Beaver [Re: The Beav] #7346982
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Stake as deep as you can with about 10' of chain. Add some weight as close to the trap as possible. It's the way I have done It and I don't remember having to deal with any live beaver.

That's what I want,I personally don't care for live beaver up on the bank.I remember one beaver that got caught by the hind foot in a 48 New house,ran for the trees and wrapped every bit of 20' of chain around every tree and bush within his reach.That was staked up on the bank,my idea was he would take to the river which was deep and had a heck of a current going thru it and wouldn't make it back out.He had other ideas


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Re: Long-Chaining Beaver [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7347008
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Good post....trapping beaver now for ADC and set up between two deeper beaver dams, creek bottom is rocky tough to stake. So I am using a JC Conners coyote grapple and long heavy chain connected to my traps. There are two additional dams nearby with thick tangled surroundings...beaver ainít going anywhere.

Re: Long-Chaining Beaver [Re: MChewk] #7347104
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Originally Posted by MChewk
Good post....trapping beaver now for ADC and set up between two deeper beaver dams, creek bottom is rocky tough to stake. So I am using a JC Conners coyote grapple and long heavy chain connected to my traps. There are two additional dams nearby with thick tangled surroundings...beaver ainít going anywhere.

Same here...all my beaver trapping is ADC. I sometimes have a few places in public view and I set accordingly, but mostly not...so I don't mind a live and wrapped up beaver as long as I got 'em.


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Re: Long-Chaining Beaver [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7347293
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Re: Long-Chaining Beaver [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7347515
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Not meaning to hijack the thread, but why does noone sell a large stoploss trap for beaver in shallow water?

Re: Long-Chaining Beaver [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7348070
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Iíve never in my life seen a beaver chew out. That may be out of close to 5 or 6,000 beavers.


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Re: Long-Chaining Beaver [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7348074
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With that weight close to the trap you can drown a beaver In 2' of water. I use a 10Lb widow weight and a beaver tires real fast when dragging around all that weight. And a front foot catch Is even better In shallow water conditions.


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Re: Long-Chaining Beaver [Re: The Beav] #7348237
09/05/21 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
With that weight close to the trap you can drown a beaver In 2' of water. I use a 10Lb widow weight and a beaver tires real fast when dragging around all that weight. And a front foot catch Is even better In shallow water conditions.

I have about 6 of the window weights. Will fasten one on near trap when long chaining.


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Re: Long-Chaining Beaver [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7349033
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You can drown a beaver in knee deep water fine. . . if you front foot them. Hind foot them and you are going to have a live beaver when you get there, but he'll be there. I always use a drowning stake in shallow water, not a weight at the end of the drowner. Hook the drowning wire/cable to the bottom of the stake and drive it into the mud in the deepest water you can reach. Sixteen inches of water is questionable, but eighteen inches will drown a front footed beaver easily. But if you have the drowning wire/cable hooked to a weight like a brake drum filled with concrete or a bag of rocks and where the wire is attached to the weight is 4 inches off the bottom, all of a sudden you are trying to drown him in fourteen inches of water, and if he is a big beaver he may be able to get his nose to the surface. If you have the drowning wire attached to a stake and the attachment point driven below the bottom of the pond, the trap is going to be held tight to the pond bottom.

Re: Long-Chaining Beaver [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7349508
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I keep a couple CDRs set up with long chains for those times when it is needed because of shallow water.

Mine are set up with a 3 foot chain attached to the original trap chain, making that first chain segment around 4 feet long. A swivel is attached to the end of that first segment, with a split ring attaching to another 3 feet section of chain with swivels on both ends. So with both segments the chains are around 7 feet long. This way i can remove the last segment of chain if i am in a place where the full 7í chain would allow the beaver to reach brush or tangles. Solid tangles are the enemy with long chains. A good front foot catch with no tangles, and the shorter 4í chain seems fine so far. I have even solid staked with short chains for beaver, but always set for rear foot exclusively when i do that. Any length of chain that reaches a sapling or other solid tangle with a front foot will most likely leave you with a drumstick. A good back foot catch will be there no matter what. I do prefer the full 7í chain if i have room, seems to make the animal more comfortable and less struggling (as long as they can reach both land and water, as others have mentioned)

Re: Long-Chaining Beaver [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7350310
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If entanglement is the problem in shallow water. Why use a long chain? I have had no problem holding beaver with 3 feet of chain and a back foot catch. Long chain has always caused me more grief than it was worth. Beaver seem to almost always find something to wrap around with long chain where I trap.

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Originally Posted by glf
If entanglement is the problem in shallow water. Why use a long chain? I have had no problem holding beaver with 3 feet of chain and a back foot catch. Long chain has always caused me more grief than it was worth. Beaver seem to almost always find something to wrap around with long chain where I trap.

Good point. I thought about that too...shorter chain.


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Re: Long-Chaining Beaver [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7350375
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When I long chained I always staked In deep water so the beaver couldn't get to dry land. The first thing a caught beaver does Is head for the safety of the water. The weight of the window weight tires them out and It's lights out. You try and stay afloat with 10lbs of weight attached to your foot.

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Re: Long-Chaining Beaver [Re: glf] #7350948
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Originally Posted by glf
If entanglement is the problem in shallow water. Why use a long chain? I have had no problem holding beaver with 3 feet of chain and a back foot catch. Long chain has always caused me more grief than it was worth. Beaver seem to almost always find something to wrap around with long chain where I trap.


Yeah as i think about it, most cases where i have to foothold a live beaver i go for a back foot catch and use no more than a few feet of chain, and like that chain to be just short enough to not be able to wrap the trap around any brush. Really the only reason to lengthen a chain very much with a solid back foot catch is to be able to drive the anchor/stake where it needs to be. I also typically cross stake with 3 foot rebar if there is any doubt of holding with those shorter chains.
There are uncommon instances where very shallow water over an extended area means i might have to hold a beaver by the front foot, and a longer chain (3 feet plus) will hold them as ling as there is no entanglement. Given that i will sooner just catch them a different location than long chain, I MIGHT be forced into it once every year or two.

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