Re: Climate Change Lies
[Re: white marlin]
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143 years worth of records vs how many thousands of years is statistically insignificant. how is your measurement accuracy from say...2300 years ago? I don't have any records, lol.
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Re: Climate Change Lies
[Re: charles]
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09/08/21 08:32 PM
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Hurricanes today have become more numerous and more severe, not to say that there were never severe or numerous hurricanes in the past. You can take this information to the bank. I lived on an NC barrier island for 15 years and before that served in the Coast Guard on the Outer Banks for 27 years. Sea Level is getting higher, the land is moving and eroding, forests are being killed by saltwater, homes and highways are being washed away, and inlets are filling and moving. Building codes are far more strenuous than ever before, yet storms continue to destroy property. These changes have not been subtle, but the changes are accelerating dramatically. Severe storms are occurring every year now instead of once per decade as in my childhood. I will be 75 next month so I've seen a few hurricanes in NC. I expect the same conditions have been experienced along the Texas Gulf Coast.
I wish it wasn't so. I respectfully disagree. No they aren’t more numerous today. You are taking the mainstream media propaganda hook line and sinker. Homes and roads have always been destroyed. There are just 3-10 times more now than 50 years ago
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Re: Climate Change Lies
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Hurricanes today have become more numerous and more severe, not to say that there were never severe or numerous hurricanes in the past. You can take this information to the bank. I lived on an NC barrier island for 15 years and before that served in the Coast Guard on the Outer Banks for 27 years. Sea Level is getting higher, the land is moving and eroding, forests are being killed by saltwater, homes and highways are being washed away, and inlets are filling and moving. Building codes are far more strenuous than ever before, yet storms continue to destroy property. These changes have not been subtle, but the changes are accelerating dramatically. Severe storms are occurring every year now instead of once per decade as in my childhood. I will be 75 next month so I've seen a few hurricanes in NC. I expect the same conditions have been experienced along the Texas Gulf Coast.
I wish it wasn't so. The foolish man builds his house on sand...we have a lot of fools along the Gulf and eastern seaboard. Joe Bastardi is a good follow on Twitter if you have it and also watch his Saturday Summary on weatherbell.com. He goes through a lot of history of storms and weather...which is why himself and the weatherbell team forecasts are more accurate then most because they actually pay attention to history and know what it means. Sniper have you read his books? They are good
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Re: Climate Change Lies
[Re: Pawnee]
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I respectfully disagree. No they aren’t more numerous today. You are taking the mainstream media propaganda hook line and sinker. Homes and roads have always been destroyed. There are just 3-10 times more now than 50 years ago
And people are putting them in really dumb places. Around here, you cant build a building inside the 100 year floodplain without building the area up. In hurricane areas people are building in spots that get hit ever 10-20 years.
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Re: Climate Change Lies
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Think maybe I was all wrong. Liberals caused the weather changes. There is no science behind it. Masks, vaccines, voter fraud, and Arabs, and Chinese, all came together in the last year and now we have low fur prices and bad storms.
Y'all knew that?
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Re: Climate Change Lies
[Re: Cedar Hacker]
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09/08/21 09:09 PM
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Kansas was covered with about a mile deep ice sheet at one time. I guess the climate is changing!
Providing wild fur to the industry at below the cost of production for over 50 years.
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Re: Climate Change Lies
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If you put one person in a mile section of pasture, there is a chance they will eventually be struck by lightning.
If you put 1000 people in a mile section of pasture, what are the chances at least one will eventually be struck by lightning? I'm betting it's 1000x greater, at the very least.
Are the storms more violent and more numerous? Or is the population in their path larger and less savvy about where to live?
Mike
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Re: Climate Change Lies
[Re: Mike in A-town]
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If you put one person in a mile section of pasture, there is a chance they will eventually be struck by lightning.
If you put 1000 people in a mile section of pasture, what are the chances at least one will eventually be struck by lightning? I'm betting it's 1000x greater, at the very least.
Are the storms more violent and more numerous? Or is the population in their path larger and less savvy about where to live?
Mike Perfect. I wish for the days of logical and truth based debate. It no longer exists. Just google something that leans conservative and then do the same on Duck Duck Go my way of thinking and many of yours is under full assault
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Re: Climate Change Lies
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09/08/21 10:43 PM
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If you put one person in a mile section of pasture, there is a chance they will eventually be struck by lightning.
If you put 1000 people in a mile section of pasture, what are the chances at least one will eventually be struck by lightning? I'm betting it's 1000x greater, at the very least.
Are the storms more violent and more numerous? Or is the population in their path larger and less savvy about where to live?
Mike I would disagree with you Mike even though I agree with your point that much of the damage and destruction is caused by lousy zoning and denser populations. But in your example above I think that the probability of lightning striking a given square mile is not at all dependent on how many people are on that square mile. In other words.........lightning may strike that square mile once a year no matter how many people are on it. What IS valid is that any lightning strike may injure more people when it does strike...but the chances, odds, probability of a strike, is not a thousand times greater
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Re: Climate Change Lies
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I've lived on the south shore of Long Island for 68 years, and lived through a bunch of hurricanes, while it's true by the time they get here they usually are not cat 3's anymore, we've had some doozies! I don't see anymore then the avg. amount per year, or any stronger than average, but.... over development exposes more infrastructure to the damage that does occur, making it look like the sky is falling. Plus.. every weather service, weatherman, and talking head, hypes the supposed danger and tries to make every storm the storm of the century...
The biggest manmade affect of climate "change" is the municipalities, zoning, and the fools that build in historical flood areas and storm impact zones...
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Re: Climate Change Lies
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Real science by any legit definition flew the coup a long time ago. We are now living in the age of Aquarius or the land of Oz or with the Simpsons depending on what Bozo you're trying to have a conversation with
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Re: Climate Change Lies
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Hurricanes today have become more numerous and more severe, not to say that there were never severe or numerous hurricanes in the past. You can take this information to the bank. I lived on an NC barrier island for 15 years and before that served in the Coast Guard on the Outer Banks for 27 years. Sea Level is getting higher, the land is moving and eroding, forests are being killed by saltwater, homes and highways are being washed away, and inlets are filling and moving. Building codes are far more strenuous than ever before, yet storms continue to destroy property. These changes have not been subtle, but the changes are accelerating dramatically. Severe storms are occurring every year now instead of once per decade as in my childhood. I will be 75 next month so I've seen a few hurricanes in NC. I expect the same conditions have been experienced along the Texas Gulf Coast.
I wish it wasn't so. Fortunately we don't have to depend on individual memories and perceptions to determine if hurricanes are more numerous and severe. There are actual weather records that dispel this widely held myth. The more it gets repeated by the likes of Joe Biden or John Kerry the more people tend to believe it, but repeating something over and over does not make it true.
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Re: Climate Change Lies
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X2^. Wishing things to be true to fit a narrative is all the rage ya know.
Long live the MAGA King
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