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A guy grabs a rifle, puts on his camo, walks into a zoo, and shoots a lion. When arrested, he's says he was just hunting lions. The local news says a hunter killed a lion at the zoo. It must be true. He' says he's a hunter. He's dressed like a hunter. He must be a true hunter.
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[Re: BandB]
#7361141 09/21/2106:31 PM09/21/2106:31 PM
A guy grabs a rifle, puts on his camo, walks into a zoo, and shoots a lion. When arrested, he's says he was just hunting lions. The local news says a hunter killed a lion at the zoo. It must be true. He' says he's a hunter. He's dressed like a hunter. He must be a true hunter.
That's the logic. I will concede that a Christian could murder, molest, etc. After all we're all sinners. That would be someone far from the faith. To imply that is what the tenants of Christianity are is asinine. It would be like saying all trappers are cruel, even though some may be.
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[Re: danny clifton]
#7361161 09/21/2106:53 PM09/21/2106:53 PM
Ku Kluxers hate and have killed "Christ killing Jews" for not converting. They have done some horrendous things to those papist idolaters that pray to saints and pay their priests to forgive them of sin also.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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[Re: danny clifton]
#7361162 09/21/2106:56 PM09/21/2106:56 PM
Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden.And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat. - Genesis 3:1-13 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis3:1-13&version=AKJV
Excuses, excuses
Always blaming others even God himself.
Keep hiding and blaming the time will come when every knee shall bow and the time for excuses will be over for all eternity.
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[Re: danny clifton]
#7361244 09/21/2108:54 PM09/21/2108:54 PM
I wonder what will happen to all that boyscout property? I would hate to guess how many millions of dollars in just CO and NM. Its a real shame too. I thoroughly enjoyed scouts when i was a kid. I fortunately did not see or even hear of any pedophiles.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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[Re: danny clifton]
#7361246 09/21/2108:58 PM09/21/2108:58 PM
I wonder what will happen to all that boyscout property? I would hate to guess how many millions of dollars in just CO and NM. Its a real shame too. I thoroughly enjoyed scouts when i was a kid. I fortunately did not see or even hear of any pedophiles.
Wait, are you saying all scout leaders aren't bad because some scout leaders do bad things?
~~Proud Ultra MAGA~~
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[Re: danny clifton]
#7361247 09/21/2108:58 PM09/21/2108:58 PM
Warrior I thought it was established that the old testament was no longer relevant? Because if it still is we had all better start gathering rocks. We got some serious stoning/executions to get rolling. We can worry about inconsistency later
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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[Re: danny clifton]
#7361249 09/21/2108:59 PM09/21/2108:59 PM
Less than 2% of the world's population self describes as atheistic or agnostic and that number is shrinking. It grew to that number, mostly in the West (us) around the late 1800's, bumped up after the world wars (how could an omnipotent God allow evil) and now the last decades is shrinking.
It is because the atheist argument bucket holds no real water. The human heart seeks answers to "why am I here?".....the question now identified as the question of the 21st century by anthropologists.
If you're asking Christians about punishing evil as an atheist you're ignorant. Simple and plain as that. The God of Moses, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob became flesh and dwelt among humans is the God of Judgment you seek, but that you atheists ridicule. You ask about justice? Where does your "goodness" come from? You? Others? You holler for justice but yell "don't judge" in the same breath.
There was no moral law before YHWH declared the first governing Law to the Israelites which has moved through 4,000 years to us today. Good and Evil? The human world governance has always been laws of pedigree and shame. Who you are is who you were born to and what you could do was related to how well you did in life. A rich pagan in ancient times could kill or hurt anyone he chose if they were poorer than him >>>> a justice of shame. Rome was the epitome of that system.
So, let us educate the atheists who are ignorant. The Christians affirm it, study it (morality), and attempt to live by it because of our love of God, But recognize we are fallen humans who are all not perfect. There would be no moral laws if not for the God of the Bible.
If y'all are looking for more answers to deep questions, bring better buckets. But some of you aren't really asking, are you? You chuckle as you type an accusing question, playing that age old game called self-righteous, so you feel more secure with your lives that could go poof at any time. The atheists say the game ends when you die and science researchers claim that those with no hope oftentimes despise others with hope. That'd be envy.
Atheists say you rot when you die and all is remembered no more. Christians profess to the faith with the God who has told us He will come again, And who will resurrect the dead and separate the good from evil. That's real Justice and we await it. Until then we all do the best we can with what God gives us.
Blessings, Mark
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[Re: danny clifton]
#7361610 09/22/2110:05 AM09/22/2110:05 AM
Danny gave you examples of "Christians" molesting children and all anybody can say is "well those aren't real Christians", what makes you think it would be any different if you had evidence that shows Christians killing non-Christians? You would still deny that they were "real Christians". Do your own digging see what you find.
You call that Christians killing non-Christians? Quite different from Muslims killing Christians who refused to convert to Islam. A pretty weak comparison.
And yes, those aren't real Christians doing these despicable acts. Going to church every Sunday doesn't make you a Christian anymore than being in your garage makes you a car. The bible says you will know them by their works. A real Christian doesn't use profanity, pornography, etc. Do you think a person who molests children has never been involved in some sort of pornography, they just all of a sudden decided to molest a child? As I said, there are people out there who on the outside look like a Christian, but on the inside there is a hidden dark side. They are referred to as 'wolves in sheep's clothing".
The same holds true for Muslims. There are some Muslims who are decent, hard working people. I have known a Muslim man who has owned a store for about 20 years in my area. We have been friends for a long time. But, there are some who have a hidden dark side. Even he will tell you that. He avoids them; actually admits he fears them.
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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[Re: panaxman]
#7361626 09/22/2110:41 AM09/22/2110:41 AM
If I posted a headline about a trapper that practiced unethical trapping methods and got caught would it be your favorite press story about trappers? I kind of doubt it but people love broad brush strokes when it fits their narrative. Seems some on here try to discredit Christianity by the acts of immoral individuals but that principle seems wrong when something is applied to what they believe in such as trapping.
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[Re: danny clifton]
#7361647 09/22/2111:27 AM09/22/2111:27 AM
Im still waiting for somebody to say why stories about protestant child molesters are an attack on christianity but a story on catholic pedophiles is just journalism and a warning to parents
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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[Re: danny clifton]
#7361664 09/22/2112:07 PM09/22/2112:07 PM
It's not the story. It's you. The story was posted by you as an attack against Christianity and God. You and everyone one else on here knows that the subject of the story is an abomination to God and man. The self professed denomination of the perpetrator is irrelevant. You're purpose was to smear the beliefs of anyone who claims the name of Christ. Nothing more.
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[Re: danny clifton]
#7361666 09/22/2112:10 PM09/22/2112:10 PM
Well Danny I think they are accusing us of lumping all protestant ministers in the category of "child molesters" and that hurts thier feelings but not enough to keep them from lumping all catholic priests into that same category. In reality more protestant ministers are guilty of indoctrination, coercion, blackmail and embezzlement than are guilty of child molesting but the child stuff is just now getting some light shined on it the other stuff has been accepted for years. But of course like we've already heard over and over, "those aren't real Christians" they are just playing the part. I'm kind of curious if all the tens of thousands of soldiers who went on the crusades and slaughtered men, women and children in the name of thier God were "not real Christians" and ended up in the hot place one and all or was it the men who indoctrinated them into believing they were doing right that took the brunt of it?
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[Re: danny clifton]
#7361675 09/22/2112:20 PM09/22/2112:20 PM
Im still waiting for somebody to say why stories about protestant child molesters are an attack on christianity but a story on catholic pedophiles is just journalism and a warning to parents
Danny your right, It's hypocritical..... Mormons and multiple child brides, not cool, Catholic Priests and choir boys, not cool....But a Baptist rapist, or Church of Christ child abuser, "well then" , that's different.