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Re: Az audit results friday [Re: Dirt] #7363944
09/25/21 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
"While many “audit” supporters declared that the audit proved the election results were wrong and that Trump was the election’s rightful winner, Fann declined to say there was fraud, instead saying it showed numerous flaws with the election system in Maricopa County that the legislature needs to address.

“I have never said the word ‘fraud’ since Day One because you don’t say ‘fraud’ unless you can prove it. And you can’t prove it just by doing an audit. Fraud is intentional malfeasance, intentional actions. We can’t prove that there were intentional actions that caused these problems. What we do know is that there were problems and that they need to be fixed,” Fann, R-Prescott, told reporters after the presentation. "


Fraud is such a nasty word anyway. I think the mainstream likes to refer these kinds of election shenanigans as irregularities.

Re: Az audit results friday [Re: walleye101] #7363946
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Originally Posted by Dirt
"While many “audit” supporters declared that the audit proved the election results were wrong and that Trump was the election’s rightful winner, Fann declined to say there was fraud, instead saying it showed numerous flaws with the election system in Maricopa County that the legislature needs to address.

“I have never said the word ‘fraud’ since Day One because you don’t say ‘fraud’ unless you can prove it. And you can’t prove it just by doing an audit. Fraud is intentional malfeasance, intentional actions. We can’t prove that there were intentional actions that caused these problems. What we do know is that there were problems and that they need to be fixed,” Fann, R-Prescott, told reporters after the presentation. "


Fraud is such a nasty word anyway. I think the mainstream likes to refer these kinds of election shenanigans as irregularities.



Word games.

Re: Az audit results friday [Re: walleye101] #7363948
09/25/21 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by walleye101

Intended to be descriptive but without any useful quantitative context.

You always hear the defenders of the election say "no widespread voter fraud"

Probably true.

But, how about laser focused tampering in swing state swing precincts


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Re: Az audit results friday [Re: wr otis] #7363952
09/25/21 11:24 AM
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The audit represents 1 county in 1 state. It showed that before the count there were things going on.

All that really doesn’t help what’s going on now.

The store shelves are showing less food.

The gas pump fill up costs more.

People are not willing to work because they are paid to stay home.

Elections have consequences!!!


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Re: Az audit results friday [Re: wr otis] #7363953
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""I think the president's statements about Mr. McCain hurt him here in Arizona," said Shadegg, a longtime political ally of McCain's.

“Look how close this race was in Arizona," added Woods. "All he had to do was show a modicum of common sense and human decency toward an American hero. He probably would have won.”"

"For many of the “McCainites,” as Cole called them, Cindy McCain’s moving appearance at the Democratic National Convention was the green light to reject the president. There, she spoke of her husband’s friendship with Biden dating to the ’70s when McCain was the Navy’s liaison to the U.S. Senate."

" He (Biden) won 58% of independents and was even able to notch 9% of Republicans and 10% of conservatives."

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Re: Az audit results friday [Re: wr otis] #7363979
09/25/21 12:20 PM
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I agree Dirt slamming McCain cost him in AZ and with a lot of Vets and patriot Americans.

Re: Az audit results friday [Re: wr otis] #7363984
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There is 2 sides to every story! Just like there are 2 different news sources.

Who delivered the fake dossier to the FBI?

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Re: Az audit results friday [Re: wr otis] #7364002
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Anywhere a fella can read the results?

Re: Az audit results friday [Re: Dirt] #7364011
09/25/21 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
"While many “audit” supporters declared that the audit proved the election results were wrong and that Trump was the election’s rightful winner, Fann declined to say there was fraud, instead saying it showed numerous flaws with the election system in Maricopa County that the legislature needs to address.

“I have never said the word ‘fraud’ since Day One because you don’t say ‘fraud’ unless you can prove it. And you can’t prove it just by doing an audit. Fraud is intentional malfeasance, intentional actions. We can’t prove that there were intentional actions that caused these problems. What we do know is that there were problems and that they need to be fixed,” Fann, R-Prescott, told reporters after the presentation. "

I guess the same thing could be said about embezzlement. Nothing intentional.....just irregular problems that need to be fixed.


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Re: Az audit results friday [Re: wr otis] #7364040
09/25/21 02:25 PM
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Elections do have consequences. Manipulation of elections equals the loss of the Republic. Loss of a Republic equals socialism/communism. We are there, most don't realize it.
A Republic is ruled by the rule of law. A Democracy is ruled by majority rule. ( two wolves and a sheep voting what's for dinner ). Socialism /communism is ruled by an elite deep state claiming Democracy. Since the last election, and even before, the rule of law In the U.S.A. only applies to the ones not part of the deep state.
At some point, with the right leaders, we may go back to what was. But, if our history is destroyed, ( books, statues, laws, memories from our elders, ECT. ), then there is nothing to go back to. History can be rewritten. Take look at our indoctrinating education system of our generation and the up coming one.


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Re: Az audit results friday [Re: bfflobo] #7364045
09/25/21 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bfflobo
Elections do have consequences. Manipulation of elections equals the loss of the Republic. Loss of a Republic equals socialism/communism. We are there, most don't realize it.
A Republic is ruled by the rule of law. A Democracy is ruled by majority rule. ( two wolves and a sheep voting what's for dinner ). Socialism /communism is ruled by an elite deep state claiming Democracy. Since the last election, and even before, the rule of law In the U.S.A. only applies to the ones not part of the deep state.
At some point, with the right leaders, we may go back to what was. But, if our history is destroyed, ( books, statues, laws, memories from our elders, ECT. ), then there is nothing to go back to. History can be rewritten. Take look at our indoctrinating education system of our generation and the up coming one.

This brings a tear to the eye when thinking of my children and grandchildren.


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Re: Az audit results friday [Re: danvee] #7364107
09/25/21 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by danvee
I agree Dirt slamming McCain cost him in AZ and with a lot of Vets and patriot Americans.


So they are okay letting their love for “The Stain McCain” lead them into communism?

What a Patriot.


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Re: Az audit results friday [Re: J Staton] #7364109
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Originally Posted by bfflobo
Elections do have consequences. Manipulation of elections equals the loss of the Republic. Loss of a Republic equals socialism/communism. We are there, most don't realize it.
A Republic is ruled by the rule of law. A Democracy is ruled by majority rule. ( two wolves and a sheep voting what's for dinner ). Socialism /communism is ruled by an elite deep state claiming Democracy. Since the last election, and even before, the rule of law In the U.S.A. only applies to the ones not part of the deep state.
At some point, with the right leaders, we may go back to what was. But, if our history is destroyed, ( books, statues, laws, memories from our elders, ECT. ), then there is nothing to go back to. History can be rewritten. Take look at our indoctrinating education system of our generation and the up coming one.

This brings a tear to the eye when thinking of my children and grandchildren.


Tears ain’t gonna keep’em free.


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Re: Az audit results friday [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7364135
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted by danvee
I agree Dirt slamming McCain cost him in AZ and with a lot of Vets and patriot Americans.


So they are okay letting their love for “The Stain McCain” lead them into communism?

What a Patriot.

Sometimes the truth is hard to take.

Re: Az audit results friday [Re: wr otis] #7364160
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"One of the few things that Republicans and Democrats could agree on during Trump’s tenure is that they didn’t share the same set of facts. In a 2019 survey, around three-quarters of Americans (73%) said most Republican and Democratic voters disagreed not just over political plans and policies, but over “basic facts.”"


Dirt- What "basic facts' are were talking about besides breathing air, drinking fluids, and eating food?? Most other things can be fought about so please enligten us what the writer was calling "basic facts"...


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I find it curious that those who think the 2020 presidential election was righteous never explain why core big metro counties in the 5 swing states that gave Sniffy the win (WI, MI, PA, GA, and AZ) all suspended ballot counting for 3-4 hours election night around 11 eastern and resumed again around 2-3 am. DWJ was ahead in all of those states when those corn metro counties stopped counting and was losing after ballot counting resumed.

Nothing to see, move long, and we'll play it again in 2024 for Kammy when she runs to fill Sniffy's 2nd term.

If we actually get to 2024 in one piece. I guess we'll see as time unfolds...

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Re: Az audit results friday [Re: danvee] #7364167
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Originally Posted by danvee
From all I read the count was done by a GOP contracted company.

The Duborats and the GOP didn't want Trump in office. They actually had to work when he was in. Lindsey, Burr, McConnell, Cruz, and most of the GOP deep down can't stand Trump. He made things happen, not wonder what happened. From day 1 the Crats were out to get him. Trump embarrassed the Hilibeast.

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Re: Az audit results friday [Re: NonPCfed] #7364169
09/25/21 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by NonPCfed
If we actually get to 2024 in one piece. I guess we'll see as time unfolds...

That's the big question.

Re: Az audit results friday [Re: danvee] #7364173
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Originally Posted by danvee
I agree Dirt slamming McCain cost him in AZ and with a lot of Vets and patriot Americans.


It was indeed a stupid move--and just plain low.


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Re: Az audit results friday [Re: Blaine County] #7364180
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by danvee
I agree Dirt slamming McCain cost him in AZ and with a lot of Vets and patriot Americans.


It was indeed a stupid move--and just plain low.

I think y'all might be old enough to remember when the republican party promised if you give them the House, Senate, and Presidency they would repeal Obamacare. Remember who had a deciding vote on just the "skinny" repeal?
I remind you, Benedict Arnold was an American war hero too.


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