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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7341373
08/28/21 07:48 AM
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Thanks Scott for the perfect explanation. Also No manufactures trap is designed to be dry fired. They are designed to fire on live paws. Use a hammer handle when tuning to fire the trap. I use a masonry hammer that weighs 2.5 pounds with a soft handle to set pan tension and not stress the steel. I 4 coil for the mechanical advantage and to fight freeze thaw conditions and to prevent that. In 3 years of testing even with the thinner gauge levers I never had any distortion. We did see some bent spring pins so we added heavier gauge pins and heat treated them. The thin levers were just to prove the design before we went to the heavy gauge levers. There is a lot more to trap design than most trappers think I guess.


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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7344486
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So when is everyone gonna blast MB for copying the K9 extreme? Or is it only a sin when someone copies MB?
Had to ask since that was all anyone talked about when Duke released their 550. Makes no difference to me because I use all of the above and like supporting them all. I do find it interesting that it’s OK for them to copy someone but not the other way around.

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7344496
08/31/21 06:13 PM
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I just looked pics of both traps. There do appear to be some similarities and some differences.

I'll buy a dozen Alpha because I like the company and have an addiction.

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Ghost14] #7344670
08/31/21 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghost14
So when is everyone gonna blast MB for copying the K9 extreme? Or is it only a sin when someone copies MB?
Had to ask since that was all anyone talked about when Duke released their 550. Makes no difference to me because I use all of the above and like supporting them all. I do find it interesting that it’s OK for them to copy someone but not the other way around.

I believe that MB produced the Bridger dogless (2013?) before the K9 extreme(2015?) came out with the same dogless style. I may be wrong though.


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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7344678
08/31/21 09:59 PM
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old newbie is correct. the 2-way adjustable dogless trigger came out on the ts-85, then the bridger dogless, then the k9extreme, in that order.

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7344709
08/31/21 11:03 PM
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I think he is probably referring to the offset lower tab on the jaw design being copied from the k9 extreme.


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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7344730
08/31/21 11:34 PM
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if youre referring to the jaw tab that the pan hooks over, and lowers the pan, i first noticed that system on the k b compound 5.5.

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: fossil2] #7344965
09/01/21 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by fossil2
if youre referring to the jaw tab that the pan hooks over, and lowers the pan, i first noticed that system on the k b compound 5.5.

Spot on, the first versions that Tom Stalker fabricated were with 650 jaws. He used the KB setup. He also designed the spring pin, that in Robs mind is pure genious. The design of the tab on the cast jaws for the Alphas was an easy transition to an already proven dogless Bridger system. The angle is very, very important...


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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7362849
09/23/21 08:39 PM
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Any word on when they’re gonna come out for sale ?


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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7362853
09/23/21 08:42 PM
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I was told the end of sept. Said they were having trouble getting steel.




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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: yoteguts] #7363803
09/25/21 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by yoteguts
I was told the end of sept. Said they were having trouble getting steel.

Yep, thanks Yote. they are trying real hard to meet that date. Quality steel is in short supply .


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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7365480
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Rob sent me a few current production models, The jaw spread issue has been addressed , both inside and out. Inside 5.5, outside 6 7/16th .. You asked they listened.. grin

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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7365547
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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: trappergbus] #7365583
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Originally Posted by trappergbus
Rob sent me a few current production models, The jaw spread issue has been addressed , both inside and out. Inside 5.5, outside 6 7/16th .. You asked they listened.. grin

Nice hope to see one soon


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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: trappergbus] #7368176
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Originally Posted by trappergbus
Originally Posted by yoteguts
I was told the end of sept. Said they were having trouble getting steel.

Yep, thanks Yote. they are trying real hard to meet that date. Quality steel is in short supply .


I talked to Brian McKee at the Georgia Convention last week, and he told me he wants to get more Sleepy Creeks out, but the steel shortage is holding him back too.

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7368305
09/30/21 08:24 PM
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They are for sale now. Ordered a dozen today.




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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7368355
09/30/21 09:19 PM
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Where did you find them? I've been checking mtp daily and havent seen them

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7368361
09/30/21 09:22 PM
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Go under the traps tab. They are not under Minnesota Brand they are under Alpha

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Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7368382
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Thanks I've got one on the way

Re: New MB "APLHA'S" *PICS* [Re: Wolfdog91] #7369133
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Gettum dirty, thanks for your interest.


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