Need to get bankrolled by one of those chinese megabuyers. It would be alot easier buying coyote with someone else's money.

I was told today by a country fur buyer right now he was looking at paying around $15 for put up coyote's.

Mr. Mark,

I would never invest that heavily into a dying industry.

I am the change I wish to see. I send all my own furs out myself for tanning and sell them privately. Trapping is the only hobby I have that makes me money.
I don't need a buyer to tell me what I do is a hobby to justify prices that don't cover expenses while he makes money.
That's whats called a slap in the face. Especially when these guys aren't even promoting wild fur.

I respect your hustle, obviously any smart trapper that wants to make a buck will get into lure making or selling their own furs. Trapping will be dead soon enough and our tax money will be used to pay gov't sharpshooters to control the predator population.

So, for wild fur to survive we actually need fewer buyers and more creative trappers.

T

I will disagree somewhat...seems as though most fur, species specific, ends up at the same place(s) anyway. Don't we need more end users (demand)?

Make no mistake about it. The lack of a fur market is killing trapping faster than all the other factors combined.

If the price of oil keeps going up Russia might get in the game the tariffs and the virus not good for the fur market.

Yes, 100%. That's the point I'm trying to make. The guys that do make money off the trade don't do anything to promote. What they do is tell the trapper that he's involved in a cute little fun hobby that will never make money but at least they'll get something.

This should be stickied, pinned, and be required reading for everyone.

Every trappers convention should have a handling, and most important, grading demo.

Yes, you are correct. No market. What other industry makes money off of something but doesn't promote it. First off no one is buying fur, second wild fur gets less respect. The fur being promoted is farmed fur because it more "humane."

Make no mistake about it. The lack of a fur market is killing trapping faster than all the other factors combined.


Thats what they said in 1750 too.

The price of fuel and living is going up faster than oil is, not just here around the world. A friend of mine in the Netherlands so a lot of people have stopped heating their houses, because they can not afford it anymore. We should be there soon. Lets Go Brandon.
How long has one guy pretty much controlled the entire wild fur market? I think longer than most think. I once heard there were three country buyers that had a coyote outlet other than the one everyone else was selling too. The guy that told me, was selling to a manufacture in Italy. All the Italian wanted was heavy paler silky coyotes. No clue where the other two were selling. There were plans to control all North American fur and some of the big buyers in the US were in the mix to try to make it happen. There is a lot of fur that traded hands several times before it left the country. The most of it was all funneling down the same hole.

If you're not making money , you're giving it away. Am I wrong?

Make no mistake the fur market has been " dead" many times threw out history. It's part of the cycle. Those of you who haven't had good quality coyotes the past few years have no idea what the idea of 100 dollar coyote does. There are so many trappers night callers day callers snowmobilers. Ect chasing coyotes the last few years that no one can deny having a price is important to motivate people. I figure I'll have alot of the country to myself again soon if nobody buys carcass coyotes. There's always the die hards that keep going and hope so e of the new comers stick with it. The get rich quick crowd never makes any money in this industry because by the time they get any fur the market goes to crap.
I bought some traps off a fellow this fall who long lined many years ago. He still traps as much as he can but old age has caught up to him. He was so tickled that a young guy like me (I'm 35) still wants to trap it was like a kid at Christmas. He told me that I only had 20 years left to do what I loved cause after that you body will fail you. He put up some very large catches in his time and told me he never got rich on the good years never starved on the bad and wouldn't trade any of them years for anything! He lived his dream as long as he could and that's more than most people have done!
I was putting up fur tonight thinking bout how much money I have invested in this game in my life from equipment to instructions it's alot more than I want my wife to know about I'll tell you that. But if it wasn't for that equipment and knowledge I wouldn't have all these worthless coyotes to put up! I don't really have time right now to worry bout the fur price. Will see how the season plays out and if come March no market develops we will come up with a plan. Until then I'm gonna feed cows and trap coyotes and live the dream!
I recommend everyone else do the same cause you never know when your last season will be. Doesn't matter if that's 10 coyotes or 1000. In the end we won't remember the money.

Pretty much why I haven't set a trap for a few years now... No one really local to sell to. And after NAFA folded it seems things have gotten worse.

The beaver are about to flood my corner of the state. I'll leave them be though. With Comrade Brandon running the show I figure they'll make dandy emergency food reserves.

Mike

No, it gets promoted harder because it’s only about 25 times better than wild fur quality wise!

Let's not exaggerate.

The big difference is it is easy to sew together. It is like putting pieces of the same nap and color carpet together. It takes less skill to sew it together, so you can hire unskilled chinese to mass produce coats with it. I don't believe mink coats go completely out of fashion.

My product is used at times to trim mink coats. The trim greatly increases the cost of those coats compared to coats trimmed in ranch mink. The price of my product is generally slightly higher than ranch mink and of smaller size.

Ranch mink is solid product, but I wouldn't put it on a pedestal.

In 1750 they did not have a mainstream media leading a society of woke snowflakes around by the nose. A society of mindless snowflakes too afraid of what others think of them based on the clothes they wear, among other fabricated fears.

Osky

Let's not forget the fur market is world wide. PETA, woke etc may not apply!

Heres a coyote sale report:

https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/7417084/fur-sale-report

dollar cost averaging??

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