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Re: Salvation Army Goes Woke [Re: Trapper7] #7418640
11/30/21 07:00 PM
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Well I just stopped donating to them!



Re: Salvation Army Goes Woke [Re: Trapper7] #7418642
11/30/21 07:00 PM
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Why not say end all welfare?


because other forms of welfare are not based solely on race


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Salvation Army Goes Woke [Re: danny clifton] #7418656
11/30/21 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
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Why not say end all welfare?


because other forms of welfare are not based solely on race


yeah yeah ok...


If you take care of the land the land will take care of you
Re: Salvation Army Goes Woke [Re: Trapper7] #7418662
11/30/21 07:31 PM
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This will wind up going on without a hitch .
Same with Coke , Pepsi , and all the other WOKE organizations .
The NFL is still going strong , because people no longer stand their ground .
Pro sports started the anti American BS , and now it's like nothing happened .
Same as a revolution , just how many will actually be a part of it ?
The socialist communist left has done a good job of dividing the country , and taking our rights away , one small right at a time .
Who has an answer , and will back it up ?
I'll be honest , I'm more anti BLM than I was 12 years ago .
Only because of this woke crap .
Same with the gay rights , never bothered me one bit , until it was pushed into every place they can cause a stir .
Live and let live , but don't force how you live on others .
That's what a free country is about .
I firmly believe the animal rights agenda started just to begin the division in our country .

Last edited by Ohio Wolverine; 11/30/21 07:33 PM.

We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
Re: Salvation Army Goes Woke [Re: Trapper7] #7418734
11/30/21 08:35 PM
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So I sent SA an email...

Good evening,

I must apologize. I had no idea that I was such a reprehensible degenerate given over to unconscious bias.

As such an individual, I can no longer in good conscience donate to such a noteworthy organization. I feel that contributing my filthy lucre might somehow corrupt your organization.

All these years of stuffing money in your red kettles I never noticed that my money was "white." I never noticed the red, yellow, black, brown, or white currency... My biased eyes only saw the green on them. Forgive my savage and backward arrogance

I hope our Lord and Savior will find it in his heart to forgive me for so unabashedly putting money into a kettle despite my evil, white nature.

I guess it's true. You can't buy your way into heaven.

Sincerely,

A white person who has seen the light.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news...-urges-members-to-confront-their-racism/



Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

Vladimir Lenin
Re: Salvation Army Goes Woke [Re: Mike in A-town] #7418763
11/30/21 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
So I sent SA an email...

Good evening,

I must apologize. I had no idea that I was such a reprehensible degenerate given over to unconscious bias.

As such an individual, I can no longer in good conscience donate to such a noteworthy organization. I feel that contributing my filthy lucre might somehow corrupt your organization.

All these years of stuffing money in your red kettles I never noticed that my money was "white." I never noticed the red, yellow, black, brown, or white currency... My biased eyes only saw the green on them. Forgive my savage and backward arrogance

I hope our Lord and Savior will find it in his heart to forgive me for so unabashedly putting money into a kettle despite my evil, white nature.

I guess it's true. You can't buy your way into heaven.

Sincerely,

A white person who has seen the light.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news...-urges-members-to-confront-their-racism/



Mike

I certainly hope you get a reply...very well put!


Act like a blank, get treated like a blank. Insert your own blank!
Re: Salvation Army Goes Woke [Re: Trapper7] #7418783
11/30/21 09:25 PM
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Nah, they'll just ignore him.

If you send such an e-mail to a woke or wanting-to-be-woke organization, they'll just ignore you, pretend what you said never existed. Its only when they have overwhelming numbers in a "public" space will they respond, and won't be to address your criticism, it will be to attack you personally. They're mostly just wussie bullies who have to run in packs to feel "tough".


"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground".
Genesis 1:26
Re: Salvation Army Goes Woke [Re: Trapper7] #7418816
11/30/21 09:49 PM
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Looks like the offending document was removed from their website. I copied a small section a couple of days ago before it disappeared. The Salvation Army's International Social Justice Commission put out a booklet called "Let's Talk About Racism".

From the SA's "Let's Talk About Racism" guide p. 26.

REPENTANCE
True repentance is a decision to move away from sin and towards God. As believers, apology and forgiveness are not only a universal human need but are Kingdom values that Scripture points to as key to opening doors to healing in even the most difficult circumstances. And as we engage in conversations about race and racism, we must keep in mind that sincere repentance and apologies are necessary if we want to move towards racial reconciliation. We recognize that it is a profound challenge to sit on the hot seat and listen with an open heart to the hurt and anger of the wounded. Yet, we are all hardwired to desire justice and fairness, so the need to receive a sincere apology is necessary. We are also imperfect human beings and prone to error and defensiveness, so the challenge of offering a heartfelt apology permeates almost every relationship. Perhaps you don’t feel as if you personally have done anything wrong, but you can spend time repenting on behalf of the Church and asking for God to open hearts and minds to the issue of racism. Perhaps God spoke to you during your time of lament, and you have an idea of what you need to repent and apologize for. Please take time to write out or think about how you can repent and apologize (referring back to the six questions at the beginning of this session).

Here's an article about the document with a link that no longer works https://tennesseestar.com/2021/11/2...ffer-a-sincere-apology-for-their-racism/

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Re: Salvation Army Goes Woke [Re: Trapper7] #7418820
11/30/21 09:51 PM
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https://www.salvationarmyusa.org/us...-to-false-claims-on-the-topic-of-racism/

They claim this isn't true. There press release is posted above

Re: Salvation Army Goes Woke [Re: NonPCfed] #7418823
11/30/21 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by NonPCfed
Nah, they'll just ignore him.


More than likely correct.

Coincidentally, I plan on doing the same to them... But it costs me nothing to do that. For them, there is a monetary penalty.

And if enough people do likewise...

Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

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Re: Salvation Army Goes Woke [Re: Hornytoad1] #7418826
11/30/21 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Hornytoad1
https://www.salvationarmyusa.org/us...-to-false-claims-on-the-topic-of-racism/

They claim this isn't true. There press release is posted above


They should notify their webpage guy then.

Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

Vladimir Lenin
Re: Salvation Army Goes Woke [Re: Yukon John] #7418832
11/30/21 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Yukon John
Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
So I sent SA an email...

Good evening,

I must apologize. I had no idea that I was such a reprehensible degenerate given over to unconscious bias.

As such an individual, I can no longer in good conscience donate to such a noteworthy organization. I feel that contributing my filthy lucre might somehow corrupt your organization.

All these years of stuffing money in your red kettles I never noticed that my money was "white." I never noticed the red, yellow, black, brown, or white currency... My biased eyes only saw the green on them. Forgive my savage and backward arrogance

I hope our Lord and Savior will find it in his heart to forgive me for so unabashedly putting money into a kettle despite my evil, white nature.

I guess it's true. You can't buy your way into heaven.

Sincerely,

A white person who has seen the light.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news...-urges-members-to-confront-their-racism/



Mike

I certainly hope you get a reply...very well put!


My wife will tell you that I am "friendly" like that... I've even done it in public. Not sure who runs faster, her, or the object of my ire.

I'm too old and tired to deal with stupid garbage like this. So I call them on it at every opportunity.

Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

Vladimir Lenin
Re: Salvation Army Goes Woke [Re: Trapper7] #7418845
11/30/21 10:07 PM
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Re: Salvation Army Goes Woke [Re: Trapper7] #7418961
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To bad. I thought Salvation army was one of the very few charities of this type that actually cared about people and the money went to good use. Its obvious someone printed this in their book. Now they seem to be back peddling to protect their organization. Instead of coming out and saying something like it slipped thru without are approval. Now they are lying to cover their butt. Which is almost as bad as what they printed.

Re: Salvation Army Goes Woke [Re: danny clifton] #7419004
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I agree 100 % also!

Re: Salvation Army Goes Woke [Re: Trapper7] #7419030
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I was on a barrier island in 2004 when we were cut off from civilization by Hurricane Isabel. We lost our only road, all water, electricity, telephone and cell connections. Our pharmacy was cut off from many people.

The day after the storm, a lady from the Salvation Army gave me a bottle of water. I have no idea how she reached me. I got to see the Salvation Army at work. They were on scene a week before anyone else.

I don’t think there was a black person on Hatteras Island then. Could be five now.

Re: Salvation Army Goes Woke [Re: Mike in A-town] #7419366
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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
So I sent SA an email...

Good evening,

I must apologize. I had no idea that I was such a reprehensible degenerate given over to unconscious bias.

As such an individual, I can no longer in good conscience donate to such a noteworthy organization. I feel that contributing my filthy lucre might somehow corrupt your organization.

All these years of stuffing money in your red kettles I never noticed that my money was "white." I never noticed the red, yellow, black, brown, or white currency... My biased eyes only saw the green on them. Forgive my savage and backward arrogance

I hope our Lord and Savior will find it in his heart to forgive me for so unabashedly putting money into a kettle despite my evil, white nature.

I guess it's true. You can't buy your way into heaven.

Sincerely,

A white person who has seen the light.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news...-urges-members-to-confront-their-racism/



Mike

Excellent post, Mike. I feel the same way after having been on their advisory board for over 20 years.


We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
Re: Salvation Army Goes Woke [Re: Mike in A-town] #7419369
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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
Originally Posted by Hornytoad1
https://www.salvationarmyusa.org/us...-to-false-claims-on-the-topic-of-racism/

They claim this isn't true. There press release is posted above


They should notify their webpage guy then.

Mike

This is what is known as "back pedaling". They know they made a big mistake that's going to affect their income.


We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
Re: Salvation Army Goes Woke [Re: AntiGov] #7419390
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Originally Posted by AntiGov

Another person who pretty much imitates his feeling is Denzel Washington.

Personally, I agree with MLK when he said, a person should be not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
Sadly, Obama and BLM has set this nation back to the pre-MLK days.


We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
Re: Salvation Army Goes Woke [Re: Trapper7] #7419426
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Newsweek reports the SA racism guide indicates they have shifted to the left, saying, "In a nutshell, its curriculum outlines the Christian church's alleged racial collusion and provides action steps to analyze and combat racism through an anti-racist lens while incorporating Critical Race Theory."

I doubt Newsweek would print something if they thought there was a chance of being sued for printing false statements which they could be held liable for .


We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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