Re: God bless Joe Manchin
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As I understand it Manchin has a host of faults. But he has stood up and done more to defend us in the last year than a lot of the worthless "republicans" have.
I'll take a gift horse now even if it turns up lame later on and ends up needing shot.
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Re: God bless Joe Manchin
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"Late on Election Night, with 93 percent of precincts reporting, Trump had 68 percent of West Virginia votes to Biden’s 30 percent." Biden's not too popular, is he?
Who is John Galt?
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Re: God bless Joe Manchin
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Maybe after the 2022 elections And not one second before! They know where his grandchildren go to school...
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Re: God bless Joe Manchin
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It’s funny how there’s always a spoiler in each party. Republicans had their “maverick” McCain and Romney. Democrats have their Joe Manchin. It’s almost like the system is designed so that nobody ever gets what they want. Republicans cheer when manchin blocks the democrats and democrats applaud Romney when he blocks the republicans. It’s a never ending cycle that happens time after time and the people never win. Meanwhile America is being flooded with illegals, China has beaten us in every aspect, cities are recording their highest homicide rates ever and now little Timmy is turned into little Tammy. On the other hand, if they actually DO anything, it just makes things worse.
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Re: God bless Joe Manchin
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I think he got really PO'd at the POTUS and other Dem leaders. I think they threatened him somehow. A quote from him this morning regarding this; “They know the real reason what happened. They won’t tell you and I’m not going to,”. The woman who lives in Chappaqua , NY hasn't made him an 'offer you can't refuse' yet. I'll be the first to say it - Joe Manchin didn't commit suicide.
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Re: God bless Joe Manchin
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Manchin may be one of a few politicians who understand what causes inflation.
I expect he will go independent shortly unless he has plans to run for president.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: God bless Joe Manchin
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Hillbilly Democrats like you find in the Southern Appalachian Mountains aren't the same as New England or Left Coast Democrats.
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Re: God bless Joe Manchin
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12/21/21 02:16 PM
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I think hed have a good shot to be elected as President if he decided to run if he stays true to his convictions.
The more heck they give him the firmer he stands by his decisions.
I believe he has the best interests of west Virginians and Americans at heart.
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Re: God bless Joe Manchin
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12/21/21 03:20 PM
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Pelosi moved the vote till the new year, Manchin is talking about his own wants in the new bill, Pelosi is listening, I'd not be surprised he is holding out for his additions into the bill, he has the leverage.
I don't trust any life long Democrat, and I'm getting to not trust any Repub's either, Romney is the best waffler there ever was.
Maybe Manchin has been learning ??
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Re: God bless Joe Manchin
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12/21/21 04:20 PM
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We probably won't know Manchin's true colors until after the final vote has been taken. It's the old "I'll believe it, when I see it" adage. As it is now, Manchin is the Democrats version of John McCain.
It would not surprise me in the least if Romney votes for BBB.
I think the Biden administration is/ was hoping for a 50-50 vote so VP Harris could break the tie in favor of the Democrats. They could then crow about what a valuable asset she is to the country and party.
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Re: God bless Joe Manchin
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United Mine Workers pres is pressuring Manchin to support the BBB plan. I bet he flips.
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Re: God bless Joe Manchin
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United Mine Workers pres is pressuring Manchin to support the BBB plan. I bet he flips. Which is kinda fishy. With all the green energy crap in this plan, the mine workers would be cutting their own throat.
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Re: God bless Joe Manchin
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Manchin may be one of a few politicians who understand what causes inflation.
I expect he will go independent shortly unless he has plans to run for president. I wish all politicians were independent. Do what they "thinks is right".. This (party) affiliated thing ain't working!
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You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: God bless Joe Manchin
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Susan Collins now making noises about 'negotiating' We need to get rid of these rhino Republican in November 2022 elections at least the ones we can.
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Re: God bless Joe Manchin
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Susan Collins now making noises about 'negotiating' We need to get rid of these rhino Republican in November 2022 elections at least the ones we can. Yup
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Re: God bless Joe Manchin
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Who knows what this build back better bill contains? The whitehouse website says higher taxes and more welfare. I understand it is over a thousand pages. What else does it say?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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