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Alaska fisher #7440082
12/23/21 10:53 PM
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Well, I caught another one a few days ago, but am having trouble posting pics from my android.
Another female, (4 of 4, have been females for me).
Caught it in a marten box with a Belisle 120, beaver meat, and Gusto.
They sure are a neat animal.


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Re: Alaska fisher [Re: alaska viking] #7440152
12/24/21 01:12 AM
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That's neat, are they letting you keep them?


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Re: Alaska fisher [Re: alaska viking] #7440170
12/24/21 02:24 AM
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The Viking’s fisher.

Re: Alaska fisher [Re: alaska viking] #7440284
12/24/21 08:35 AM
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If I'm not mistaken that sure looks like part of a Democrat election sign.
pan covers sure do work

Re: Alaska fisher [Re: alaska viking] #7440424
12/24/21 11:29 AM
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Thanks, Mike!
The blue spot in the first pic is actually a bucket I use to haul bait.


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Re: Alaska fisher [Re: alaska viking] #7440437
12/24/21 11:48 AM
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Cool !!! Not much snow.


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Re: Alaska fisher [Re: alaska viking] #7440450
12/24/21 12:07 PM
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What a neat catch. I am curious why you keep catching females?

Re: Alaska fisher [Re: white17] #7440486
12/24/21 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by white17
Cool !!! Not much snow.

That stop on my line has a heavy canopy of hemlock but 20 yards away, at the fringe, it's about 3' deep, with a couple inches of ice crust on top.


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Re: Alaska fisher [Re: broncoformudv] #7440489
12/24/21 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by broncoformudv
What a neat catch. I am curious why you keep catching females?

I wish I knew. Of the 4, one was in a horizontal pole box, about 5' off the ground, one was in a ground box, (both Belisle 120's).
2 were in wolverine cubbies, with foot holds.

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Re: Alaska fisher [Re: alaska viking] #7440546
12/24/21 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by alaska viking
Originally Posted by white17
Cool !!! Not much snow.

That stop on my line has a heavy canopy of hemlock but 20 yards away, at the fringe, it's about 3' deep, with a couple inches of ice crust on top.


Not nice !!


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Re: Alaska fisher [Re: alaska viking] #7440547
12/24/21 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by alaska viking
Originally Posted by broncoformudv
What a neat catch. I am curious why you keep catching females?

I wish I knew. Of the 4, one was in a horizontal pole box, about 5' off the ground, one was in a ground box, (both Belisle 120's).
2 were in wolverine cubbies, with foot holds.


How far apart were those 4 catch locations ?


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Re: Alaska fisher [Re: alaska viking] #7440608
12/24/21 04:17 PM
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Great question. The first, in a ground box, was about 20 miles, and 3 large river systems away from the other 3, which were all with-in about one mile from each other. Those 3 where taken over the course of 4 years.


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Re: Alaska fisher [Re: alaska viking] #7440609
12/24/21 04:18 PM
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Likely juveniles.
We did a study here on incidental fisher catches in marten boxes.Over several seasons the ratio district wide was 9 to 1 juveniles of either sex to adults of either sex.
We submitted the heads and the fur tech and a couple volunteers from the fur council boiled and extracted teeth,documented and sent the teeth for aging..

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Re: Alaska fisher [Re: Boco] #7440788
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Originally Posted by Boco
Likely juveniles.
We did a study here on incidental fisher catches in marten boxes.Over several seasons the ratio district wide was 9 to 1 juveniles of either sex to adults of either sex.
We submitted the heads and the fur tech and a couple volunteers from the fur council boiled and extracted teeth,documented and sent the teeth for aging..



All of the fisher taken in our area are incidental. They climbed, got whacked, and hung from marten sets, or tromping on or through traps in wolverine cubbies. It is highly doubtful anyone here is setting specific to fisher. They weren’t even around until thirty years ago, that anyone knew of.

I have caught one smallish female and one pretty good sized male in the same set on two concurrent seasons. The large male.

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Re: Alaska fisher [Re: alaska viking] #7440794
12/24/21 07:23 PM
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Well, two of the four were taken in wolverine cubbies, with footholds.
I donated three carcasses, (last one pending), for study.
The second one, (wolverine foothold take), had uterine blastcysts, indicating previous implantation.
I agree that at least the others were probably dispersing juveniles, and this area has not previously had fisher, or fisher sign, for the prior 30-plus years that I, or others have trapped it.


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Re: Alaska fisher [Re: white17] #7440797
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Originally Posted by alaska viking

That stop on my line has a heavy canopy of hemlock but 20 yards away, at the fringe, it's about 3' deep, with a couple inches of ice crust on top.


Whiner! grin

Re: Alaska fisher [Re: alaska viking] #7440846
12/24/21 08:25 PM
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I caught a female a couple years ago that probably came down the Stikine, although it wasn't caught in that drainage.
I wonder if they will have a negative effect on the marten population?


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Re: Alaska fisher [Re: alaska viking] #7440854
12/24/21 08:35 PM
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This is from F&G website...
"Update: Around 2012 an open season was created for fishers, in part to encourage reporting. The season, on the Southeast Alaska mainland (Game Management Unit 1) runs Dec. 1 — Feb. 15, and there is an annual limit of one animal. Any fisher caught must be reported (sealed) within 30 days of the close of the season. Between 2013 and spring of 2017, trappers reported catching 12 fishers on the northern Southeast Alaska mainland."

12 fisher "reported" in those 4 years. I wonder what the reported number has been since?

Re: Alaska fisher [Re: alaska viking] #7440855
12/24/21 08:35 PM
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Well, I'm no expert by any stretch, but being curious by nature, I have done some research on that very subject.
The two are actually very different "specialists", and my take-away is that one doesn't out-compete the other. Rather, habitat is the deciding factor, as to which thrives, and which merely survives.
Ultimately, I think most of southeast Alaska mainland could support pockets of fisher, I don't see them usurping prime marten habitat.
Boco could probably provide insight, and would also love input from Gulo, if White can rattle his cage.

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Re: Alaska fisher [Re: alaska viking] #7440867
12/24/21 08:45 PM
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I'm wondering if the relatively low snow depths of low elevation coastal SE Alaska might actually favour fishers?


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