Fat Marten.
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Uncommon for marten to carry that much fat. Looks like they are feeding on grouse-high population of grouse.Some hair in the gut too-looked to be flying squirrel,but not definitive.No shortage of flyers in certain areas. Juvenile female.
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Re: Fat Marten.
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I don't know but around here people say marten fat like that when they have been hitting the berries xtra hard when meat food scarce. Carbs make you fat. Same idea about fat fox too.
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Re: Fat Marten.
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Thats why I opened his gut-wanted to see if he was eating on a kill(moose) or beaver from one of my bait dump. besides the fat his whole intestinal tract was full.It was not caught near a baitpile,and I normally catch all marten that visit a baitpile at the baitpile in a nearby box.
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Re: Fat Marten.
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Yea,Frank, I guess they can put on the fat on a diet of berries,but what I understand about marten is they need to eat steady especially in the cold.They have a high metabolism.They will burn up stored fat quickly.I think they need a steady supply of feed to maintain any fat they accumulate. There was a lot of fat inside the body cavity on that Marten too.When I seen it was a female I was a bit bummed figured it was an adult,but when I looked at the skull,It looked to be a juvenile.I confirmed that with a look at the fallopian tubes-very thin and threadlike.
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Re: Fat Marten.
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01/02/22 12:21 AM
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The marten I have taken with body fat have almost always been making a living off my bait piles, or wolverine cubbies. Doesn't seem to take long for them to put on fat, and probably not long to burn it off.
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Re: Fat Marten.
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Do you open them up to check AV?Whenever I get an abnormally fat animal I always open it up to see what i can identify.Pure meat with no hair indicates to me that they are living on a pile of skinned carcasses.Voles are easy to identify from the tiny bone fragments,etc. I was not really surprised when I found this one was eating grouse-we have been polluted with grouse-spruce and ruffed for at least 6 or 7 years now. Probably not their preferred food,I think once marten get on the grouse they take them when they roost at night.I know marten will take grouse scraps readily as bait in the fall as long as the weather isnt too cold,and they can smell it.When it gets very cold grouse scrap is a poor bait. I dont use grouse scrap in baitpiles(dont have enough of it for that),but do use it in boxes if I am trapping marten in the fall. I have caught marten living in jackpot baitpiles that were very fat.It is a given they will wind up in a trap,they dont go far from a large bait,often living in a hole right in the baitpile.
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I did stomach exams for a number of years, mostly looking for parasitic worms.
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Re: Fat Marten.
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That was keeping it's wrinkle full
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Re: Fat Marten.
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Of course always think of berries as a before snow item. Just remembered seeing a vid. from NFLD, taken mid November this past year, and a marten was hanging UPSIDE DOWN going at the dogberries in a dogberry tree (mountain ash). Maybe another piece of the puzzle with marten getting at winter dogberries. Every dogberry tree in Labrador, and I hear NewFoundLanD, is buried with dogberries this year. Nil last year. There is another Q.: how it is all in sync over such a broad area.
Anyone mind to PM me an e mail address and I can forward the e mail I was sent with the marten in the dogberry tree.
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Crosspatch sent this video. I hope the link works. Seems to work OK Marten in Tree
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Re: Fat Marten.
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Thanks for doing the IT White. Yes it does work. Took about a minute to download on my computer but there is the marten hanging upside down eating berries out a dogberry/mountain ash tree. Vid. was taken in Newfoundland in mid November. Outstanding the agility of those animals in a tree.
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