Seems to me there has been all kinds subsidized business in my lifetime. Airline bailout, railroad, milk pricing. Corn and beans. Land use deals for tax breaks or paid not to use, granted grazing rights, mineral rights timber rights.. All are our tax money or public lands supporting business in some way. For the better good of all working people
Right??
Maybe them meat farmers will be required to remove their "Let Go Brandon" or FJB signs and flags to qualify??

Maybe people just need eat more pork and chicken. What true American don't eat bacon?? Lot quicker to restore that supply than beef. Let them big Packers have their illegals process it for lazy welfare folks don't want work that hard and just eat government cheese..
It's a wonderful life.

My dog breath still smells like Dog Chow!

Mac

Listen to Biden's speech about the lack of competition in the meat industry...now replace "meat industry" with federal government and their big biz affiliates

Agree 100%.

Its not just Biden its been going on for years with both parties, it gets votes and both sides wants that and it slowly becomes socialism. All politicians are crooked and self serving. Look who owns the meat packing plants the farms and farm land. Its all going to overseas owners, save Bill Gates who is the biggest land owner in the US. Its going back to the futile system a few ultra rich owning all and the workers getting just enough to get by on. When they own enough they will force the government into paying what they want to grow food or let us starve no different then OPEC does with oil. Wyoming is a republican state and with very few land owners the ranches and farms keep getting bigger, all our politicians are large land owners. You should hear the howl when the farm bill comes up to be reduced. When sugar beet fields freeze in like several years ago here and in Montana we become disaster states and get the hand out. We have big buyers coming in now here and in Montana that buy up key pieces of ground to lock you out of public lands no access allowed. They continue to get the public lands to become state so they can be sold to the highest bidder which is not the common man. In Montana they are trying to have big game permits go to the ranchers so they can be sold to the high bidder. Don't put the blame on anyone of them they are all playing the same game.

My favorite program is ethanol subsidies and mandates. Take tax dollars to drive the price of corn up, hence the cost of any food produced or made with corn, for the taxpayer. Then put ethanol in gas so it goes bad and damages the taxpayers' equipment. All to benefit corn farmers. less than 1% of the U.S. population. Winners less than 1%, losers greater than 99%. This is not even good socialism.

I raise beef, I own my land, I own my machines, I own my cattle. We, my wife and I paid for it all. The only crops I raise are to feed the animals, I and others like me do it without a dime from Uncle Sam. We and others like me learned from our fathers when they lost everything in the 70's, many like my wife the land had been in the same family for 3 generations. So all you that think all ranchers and or row crop farmers are on the govt. tit can go TWNAOTM.
A rich farmer isn't the guy driving a brand new truck with new equipment every other year, that stuff belongs to the bank. As does his land, He will be lucky to make 70 to 80 k a year take home.
A rich farmer is the guy with a couple hundred acers and 10 year old equipment he owns and keeps up. And doesn't have to take out a loan to put a crop out. My newest truck of 4 is a 2011, it's been paid off for years. They all are, and still run and see use.
If Biden sends me a check I'll kiss TWNAOTM, I know you all sent your stimulus checks back. That's where my tax dollars went. I won't hold my breath waiting to get it back.
Case.

Subsidies to lower prices? Sounds more like government price control to me.

We need less government not more.

The corn ethanol was the biggest BS farm project ever takes more energy to grow the corn that what it gives back in energy but got Hillary a bunch of farm votes. Just saying it not about the people its about getting the votes to help the ultra rich in the end. Red fuel, my kid figured it out all his vehicles now are registered to the farm and diesel even though he works at the college. Well drives around the ranch to see where the good hunting is, lots of sweet tax breaks.

A 3 pack of steaks cost about 60 dollars now at my store. Who is buying this stuff with any regularity? Maybe the people with EBT cards that I as a taxpayer subsidize? How is the price going to go down when I am boycotting it but my tax dollars are allowing non-working people to keep buying it? The laws of supply and demand simply arent at work here.

I got no problem with folks keeping more of their own money.

My customers pay market price the day I take the deposit, then they pay the slaughterhouse kill, cut, wrap fees. I can guarantee they aren't paying those kind of prices.

Im talking Walmart prices.

The biggest mistake is thinking this idea, or any of the other socialist progam ideas, originated with Biden. Unless you believe that he is the one writing the words he reads from the teleprompter.

My brother in law and his family make their money dairy farming and they claim subsidies is the only reason they can still do it. But I’m still against subsidies and don’t think it’s the only way they can do it. When a dairy farmer can sell their milk for more per gallon than I buy it at the store, there’s an issue. Same with beef, same with crop insurance. The government “helping” industries in a free market is a temperary fix with long term effects. And that includes the subsidies of min wage.

I don't know what a stimulus check looks like.Never got one.I also don't know what TWNAOTM means..but when you kiss it,,I want to watch.

He's the one signing, but I agree that he doesn't know what's in the bills he signs.

Most here obviously don't know that the meat industry already received 600,000,000 in the first stimulus bill Pelosi and company passed.

Your spot on Walleye it all started with land grants like giving away land to the railroads and Im not talking about just the right of way. It started day one when the King of England promised land to those that would do his bidding.

"Suddenly, dairy farmers who had been hurting were flush with cash—and producing as much milk as they could in order to take advantage of government support. The government purchased the milk dairy farmers couldn’t sell and began to process it into cheese, butter and dehydrated milk powder. As dairy farmers produced more and more milk, stockpiles ballooned. As anthropologist Bradley N. Jones notes, eventually the stockpile hit over 500 million pounds, stored in hundreds of warehouses in 35 states.


The huge supply was a problem, but there was another catch: The government had no idea what to do with all that cheese. “Probably the cheapest and most practical thing to do would be to dump it in the ocean,” a USDA official told the Washington Post in 1981. There was also confusion as to how long the processed American cheese—designed to be stored for long periods of time—really lasted."

This is the most accurate statement yet as far as my understanding goes this is not a payment made to beef farmers directly this is payment made to medium and sized packers to build or expand... Theyre attempting to create more competition in the packing industry that they wrecked themselves. my problem here is they already do a poor job of enforcing the the packer and stockyards act. So it's very predictable for the mega packers in 5 yrs to squeeze the profit out of the mid sized outfits that will be built until they can buy them for pennies on the dollar. Look up the past 3 yrs in the beef industry and you can see that we had record box beef prices and a stagnant and at time declining live cattle price. Dont worry fires, hacking, and covid all did that though by taking plants offline... Didnt matter that following those events the rest of plants worked overtime and we were still able to make larger weekly kills.

Likely the meat farmer and consumer will see very little if any benefit.

If you want try and benefit from the free money build a slaugterhouse. I will root for ya over the big boys.

Looks like the wheels of the gods aren't the only ones that turn slowly.

I'm done.