Re: Fat Marten.
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01/06/22 05:22 PM
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The ruffed grouse love mountain ash berries,and the sap sucking woodpeckers drill their bark full of rows of small holes. Mountain ash is an edge species here.And on dry ground.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Fat Marten.
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01/06/22 09:10 PM
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Do tell, White. Who made your lunch that day?
Just doing what I want now.
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Re: Fat Marten.
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01/06/22 11:55 PM
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In one stomach I found a piece of quartz about the size of a pea and in another, I found a piece of blue tarp !
I saw a pile of bear scat on the road in front of the Hyder PO once that was entirely yellow poly rope and aluminum foil. Go figure.
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Re: Fat Marten.
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01/07/22 01:55 AM
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I was skinning a wolf once and stuffed an old pair of long johns in his butt to keep him from Off-gassing, A buddy came in and seen the leg of a pair of longjohns hanging out the wolfs arse and thought he ate someone.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Fat Marten.
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01/07/22 02:36 AM
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Sables love mountain ash; a few years ago we had a big crop and sables ignored pretty much everything else, including bait, until early January or so (it was also easy to see in their scat, which was pure orange from berries, only occasionally with some shreds of red-backed vole fur). Siberian weasels (Mustela sibirica) also love it and will climb very high up mountain ash trees to get these berries. Trappers here often add clumps of mountain ash berries, as well as Viburnum berries, to bait in leghold sets to make bait more appealing visually. In areas with good numbers of hazel grouse, they often get caught in such sets, too, especially early in the season, which is partially intentional (breast meat is taken and the rest is used for bait).
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Re: Fat Marten.
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01/07/22 11:23 AM
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I never noticed marten eating mountain ash here, but then I've never trapped them when there were berries on. We have lots of mountain ash here, and they are pretty. In fact some of the towns plant them as decorative landscaping. Birds and bears will eat them, but I've neve really seen them as a preferred food. They taste like dirt to me, a friend had me pick a bunch for him one time he was going to try and make wine out of, but I guess it didn't turn out. I remember one year about fifteen years ago when the bears were in them one fall and that is all they were eating, if you weren't in mountain ash there weren't any bears around. But that is the only time I have ever seen it like that, every other year it seems like they will eat them if nothing else is available, and maybe grab a clump as they walk by, but certainly don't go out of their way to eat them.
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Re: Fat Marten.
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01/07/22 11:44 AM
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How far are you from salt water ? A few hundred miles, give or take. They taste like dirt to me, a friend had me pick a bunch for him one time he was going to try and make wine out of, but I guess it didn't turn out. IMHO, mountain ash is probably one of the best and most foolproof wild berries for winemaking. Raw berries taste awful, but they lose the bitterness during the fermentation process and their high sorbate content (sorbates are natural preservatives named after Sorbus, actually), protects the wine against molds in the process, even if you prefer low alcohol content in the resulting drink, which is a mild, straw or amber-colored wine with a very recognizable delicate smell. You don't even need brewer's yeast, the naturally occuring strains on the surface do the job very well. I set a batch every year, either pure mountain ash, or a combination with cloudberries or sea buckthorn, but not being a big drinker, I just give it away to eager friends.... by the way, here's a picture taken by Artur Murzakhanov from the Barguzinskiy nature reserve:
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Re: Fat Marten.
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01/07/22 12:50 PM
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People in Newfoundland/Labardor have long made dogberry (mountain ash) wine too. Very good to hear an informed Russian version of it.
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Re: Fat Marten.
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01/07/22 01:33 PM
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How far are you from salt water ? A few hundred miles, give or take. They taste like dirt to me, a friend had me pick a bunch for him one time he was going to try and make wine out of, but I guess it didn't turn out. IMHO, mountain ash is probably one of the best and most foolproof wild berries for winemaking. Raw berries taste awful, but they lose the bitterness during the fermentation process and their high sorbate content (sorbates are natural preservatives named after Sorbus, actually), protects the wine against molds in the process, even if you prefer low alcohol content in the resulting drink, which is a mild, straw or amber-colored wine with a very recognizable delicate smell. You don't even need brewer's yeast, the naturally occuring strains on the surface do the job very well. I set a batch every year, either pure mountain ash, or a combination with cloudberries or sea buckthorn, but not being a big drinker, I just give it away to eager friends.... by the way, here's a picture taken by Artur Murzakhanov from the Barguzinskiy nature reserve: Great picture!! It is my dream to visit the Barguzin river valley. Hopefully as soon as this covid nonsense is over. I plan to take the train to Irkutsk, then spend about a week or so traveling up the east side of the lake. Are you located anywhere near the rail line?
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