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2 traps at one set? #7454182
01/08/22 10:48 AM
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In reference to the set appearance thread where coyotes are working the set from the back maybe because of the wind , what about two traps per set , like a double sided set with backing in the middle and two " fronts ?

Re: 2 traps at one set? [Re: Clynn] #7454237
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Re: 2 traps at one set? [Re: Clynn] #7454248
01/08/22 12:29 PM
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Have to ask yourself at what point does it become inefficient? If two is better is 3, 4 or 5 even better? I used 2 traps at a few sets this year to specifically catch a problem coyote. I caught three coyotes at these sets. Would I have caught them with one? I feel the likelihood was better than 50%. I do believe my problem coyote was caught at a set with one trap. I believe for the large majority of situations the use of one trap is the most effective way. The extra time at the set (which means more scent and wasted time that could have been spent make other sets) and extra disturbance made by putting in two traps out weights the advantages of two traps in most situations. Most of time it's better to figure out why the set was worked from the back and fix the issue causing the situations instead of using 2 traps in my opinion. I've put in over 300 test dirt holes in the 3 years and 95% of them get dug from the "front" side.

Most of the time wind is the factor in my opinion. If you want to set two traps to cover 2 winds just make two different sets and then you still have the opportunity for two catches. If using drags on two trap sets you would still give yourself the opportunity for two catches but I don't use drags.

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Re: 2 traps at one set? [Re: Clynn] #7454258
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Good points . Thanks !

Re: 2 traps at one set? [Re: Clynn] #7454265
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There is a time and place for 2 traps, but remember the always and never sentences.


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Re: 2 traps at one set? [Re: red mt] #7454339
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Originally Posted by red mt
There is a time and place for 2 traps, but remember the always and never sentences.

Yes sir , I will .

Thanks

Re: 2 traps at one set? [Re: Clynn] #7454342
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Set the trap in the back to start with if you're setting where back side approach is likely.

Re: 2 traps at one set? [Re: Clynn] #7454506
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I’ve run 2 traps at almost every cubby for cats over the years I’ve caught the same cat in the 2 traps but never 2 at the same time. But having both ends covered is what’s important.


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Re: 2 traps at one set? [Re: Clynn] #7454527
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I’m going to make some dirt hole sets Monday with the trap set off to the side and nothing where you’d traditionally set a trap just to see. Got plenty of videos with critters checking out the sets on the side and not getting caught, then again with the same bait/lure combo I’ve caught critters with the set in the traditional spot. Got time and traps to give it a try.
With that said, I generally always make two sets at each location to cover the winds. The next 10-12 days here will have a W in the forecast with a few with an E. So a majority of my sets for the next couple of weeks will be set for the W on high ground to account for rain. Last storm produced 3” in about 12 hours. Functional trap catch, flooded traps don’t.

Re: 2 traps at one set? [Re: Clynn] #7454629
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Major Boddicker wrote about his equilateral triangle set where he used 1 hole and 2 traps in an equilateral triangle configuration. Tom Miranda wrote that due to logistics he switched the set around and used 2 holes with 1 trap in a reverse(reverse/upside down to Boddicker’s) equilateral triangle set. Boddicker wrote that the change from 2 traps to 1 would show a 30% decrease in catch rate.

I use Miranda’s walk-thru set(equilateral triangle) and there is truth to what Boddicker has wrote about a decrease of catch but I’ve only experienced a 15%-20% miss rate. The miss will occur when a coyote comes in from downwind and doesn’t work the set except maybe to scratch a little at the downwind hole but not really work it for some reason. The baits and/or lures I use with this set are time-proven to be top performers, the “best of the best” in my local so why the coyote acts as I described I don’t know. When I observe this to happen, I’ll place a 2nd trap at the set in an equilateral triangle fashion to the hole that was scratched. So now I have 2 holes with 2 offsetting trapsI I ALWAYS will catch the next coyote OR the one who scratched the hole in the added trap.

There is another example where I will choose to use 2 traps. When I start to get an accumulation of snow, say over 4”-5’” I’ll switch from my Disco dirt hole set to full time the Miranda walk-thru set. Knowing my guiding is pretty much nonexistent I’ve learned that the coyote will circle the set/scents since the set is buried seemingly trying to pinpoint the sources of scent. So, when the snow gets to that depth I drop a trap in directly behind the backing on a drag. This trap that I dropped in will account for better than 1/2 of the catches with deeper snow using this set.
These are strictly my personal experiences and observations where I trap and the conditions I trap in.


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