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Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: bowhunterks] #7459051
01/13/22 12:09 AM
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Said it first, it's the end of the era, that man is a genius,light years ahead of the rest.

Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: danny clifton] #7460672
01/14/22 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I know they intend to make money. I know at ten bucks finished I would rather burn them. Why contribute to a market thats flooded ?

Isn't that kind of like burning your stock portfolio when the stock market goes way down? And, why would they buy coyotes if they didn't intend to at least make a little profit?

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Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: bowhunterks] #7460678
01/14/22 01:45 PM
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Danny the latest survey of trappers nationally has only about less than 5 % of trappers saying the money is important to them. Buyers have been buying ( and end users) from the other 95% for decades. They really do not comprehend that there are a few trappers that do it for money. I tried to explain to a buyer, I can't trap for that price. His eyes glazed over. I don't think he understood what I was saying.


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Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: bowhunterks] #7460689
01/14/22 02:03 PM
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why would they buy coyotes if they didn't intend to at least make a little profit?



For the same reason you trap to not make money I guess.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: bowhunterks] #7460692
01/14/22 02:06 PM
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Dirt, he understood all right. Just didn't like it


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: danny clifton] #7460703
01/14/22 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Dirt, he understood all right. Just didn't like it


I'm not sure. We had a good long talk comparing notes and basically he told me a story about how he offered to make trappers more money on a product ( and they would have made probably twice as much) and they turned him down and sent fur to a Canadian auction. We both shook our heads on that one. frown

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Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: danny clifton] #7460711
01/14/22 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
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why would they buy coyotes if they didn't intend to at least make a little profit?



For the same reason you trap to not make money I guess.

Maybe recreational/hobby fur buying is what's happening with the market this year.........just couldn't resist!

Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: bowhunterks] #7460728
01/14/22 02:56 PM
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Kinda like going to the proctologist doesn't pay but its fun for some!!

Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: bowhunterks] #7460736
01/14/22 03:09 PM
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I know i'm new to trapping, but I just want to make the point that the mere fact that we can get some sort of return on trapping is amazing to me. Spending as much money as I have on hunting stuff year in, year out, has me asking myself why I didn't start trapping sooner.

Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: bowhunterks] #7460757
01/14/22 03:35 PM
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Tofan, 40 years ago 100 Kansas coyotes would buy the best NEW 4wd pickup on any dealers lot. In 1980 my best bobcat paid the ENTIRE bill for the birth of my first kid. I cant sell coyotes for what I got in the 90's when 10 bucks bought what 20 will now. If you want to give stuff away so someone else can make money on it, I will buy all the 1964 and older U.S. coins you have for face value.


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Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: danny clifton] #7460765
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Tofan, 40 years ago 100 Kansas coyotes would buy the best NEW 4wd pickup on any dealers lot. In 1980 my best bobcat paid the ENTIRE bill for the birth of my first kid. I cant sell coyotes for what I got in the 90's when 10 bucks bought what 20 will now. If you want to give stuff away so someone else can make money on it, I will buy all the 1964 and older U.S. coins you have for face value.



I'll be, that would be a sight to see. Dang, I bet that was a great time man. One can only imagine the excitement trading furs for that type of return, sort of like checking the traps everyday, never know what you might get. Another coin collector....I do have some liberty dimes that I have acquired over the years, I was even lucky enough to find a silver quarter when I was on a jobsite in upstate NY about 15 years ago.

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Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: bowhunterks] #7460766
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I agree Danny I have a certificate for a top lot coon of $58 fox for 80 nose count, coyote topping 120 and even pale beaver for 60 plus, rats paid all my expenses for traps lures and gas, though cats can sell for more now averages were over 350 always. Gas for under a buck, everything has gone up except fur.

Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: bowhunterks] #7460846
01/14/22 05:37 PM
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In the 80s trapping I did not do anything in the winter for a job because I could not afford to go work. I lost money If i did.
Trapping was a good way of life .


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Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: bowhunterks] #7461089
01/14/22 10:26 PM
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I had been procrastinating clearing out some coons for a farmer-hoarder friend of mine. I haven't hit his place for 2 years. I told him today we're waiting until April 1 and we'll do the state tail bounty thing. Why waste time messing with finishing coon fur when the state will pay a better average for turning in the tail? I'll double lung the old boars and take their skulls and bone and that adds a little coin to the bounty. Still get a few 2xl unbred coon sows that have nice fur in early April, tan the main fur off of them. The naked grinner tails worth the same as a coon's, although the hoarder-farmer think possums a "good ratters". I'll let Law Dog turn in most of the "tainted" pepe tails grin wink...


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Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: WBG] #7461114
01/14/22 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by WBG
Sorry JR., but You did not see worse prices in the 90's when the buying power of the dollar is taken into account, as it should be. When talking about the great crash of 87 many items recovered in a few years. For example I was selling male Mink for 30 dollars by 92 or 93, of course there was still an Italian market at that time.

BULL sent 44 coyote to FHA in those years every sale i'd get a check for 5 bucks maybe 7 or 9 for a couple years then nothing shipped 14 beaver to NAFA received 110.00 actually got more for a kit then a super blanket (dark silky) and those were winter caught
went to a fur sale in Kalkaska,mi one kid had a mink it was bid up to 40.00 the rest of the lots never broke 20 So you could have got 30


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Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: bowhunterks] #7461159
01/14/22 11:21 PM
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Question, what has more value 14 beaver for 110.00 1990 dollars or 14 beaver at 140.00 2022 dollars?

Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: bowhunterks] #7461462
01/15/22 10:53 AM
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tofan if your just starting out i bet you havent came close to cover the cost of your start up costs let alone your time and gas price of meat now days hunting is a good investment heck to buy a 1500 pd calf now and have it processed will cost you 2500 to 3000 dollars id rather have a freezer full of meat i harvesed than fur

Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: bowhunterks] #7461538
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I didnt have a problem with 90s prices, sure they bounced around but you could switch species and we still had a few rats around, Plus there was the chance of prices going up- that hasnt happened for a while lately. Now ALL species are low..

Re: Sold coyote's today [Re: bowhunterks] #7461548
01/15/22 12:49 PM
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Yep. Figure 30 pounds of deer meat at the price of beef is 150 bucks. Doe tag here is 20. Ammo hasn't been bought at inflated prices by me. Maybe a half tank of gas to shoot 3-4. So a hundred pounds of boned out venison for roughly 100 bucks. My rifles have all paid for themselves many times over so I am not figuring that in. I have only bought myself 3 new guns in the last 20 years. I figure guns I bought for kids and grandkids are just gifts. I did spend a little on a pheasant hunt last year. Went out to the KS CO border and split the cost of a motel room with a buddy. So sometimes it costs. First time in a while though I have spent that much to go hunting.


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