Re: Some Stone Artifacts
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Wow, you guys have found some amazing artifacts. I don't have any tools or points but I did find this stone effigy pipe 68 years ago when I was playing by a creek as a kid. I put the stem in it from a piece of hollowed out sumac. Nice find. Did you ever use it? Keith
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Re: Some Stone Artifacts
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Here is a different angle of the doughnut cut into the rock. Both are close the same size and shape. Any ideas? Mjm, this subject usually gets some folks riled up because they are hardcore convinced they have an artifact,, been in a gazillion heated discussions… what you have unfortunately is an Omar https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omarolluk I could really care less what it is, I would just like to know for sure. I am not sure you would think that it was a Omar if you had it in your hand. I have hauled rocks home that were well over 100 lbs that I knew had nothing to do with Indians, other than one may have seen it. The doughnut was made at a different time than the rock and it is much rougher than the stone. Being rough leads me to belied it was chipped out not rubbed. Thanks for the input.
In the closeup, it looks like it was pecked at by another rock, from the roughness. I believe omars are usually smooth. It might be the start of an atlatl weight. Keith
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Re: Some Stone Artifacts
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Cool thread, may have shown these on here before, but here's some NC stuff I have picked up over the years Nice finds. Here's some from North Carolina I have. You can often tell where an artifact is from by the style and material. You can see stylistically that some of our points are the same and the material used is the same too. In some cases, experts can actually tell that one specific person made many found artifacts. They can also follow how a new style spread from group to group. Keith
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Re: Some Stone Artifacts
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Wow, you guys have found some amazing artifacts. I don't have any tools or points but I did find this stone effigy pipe 68 years ago when I was playing by a creek as a kid. I put the stem in it from a piece of hollowed out sumac. Nice find. Did you ever use it? Keith A couple times when I was younger by about 50 years.
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Re: Some Stone Artifacts
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That's a nice grooved hammer. I really like the bell pestle. I've never seen one that short. That was likely used for a very long time. Keith
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Re: Some Stone Artifacts
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In the closeup, it looks like it was pecked at by another rock, from the roughness. I believe omars are usually smooth. It might be the start of an atlatl weight. Keith Pecked is a much better discerption than chipped like I said. I looked up atlatl weighs and I would think this would be on the heavy side and a odd shape for one. But I do agree that the doughnut is pecked out.
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Re: Some Stone Artifacts
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Keith. How much do the stone groove axes go for?? I found 1 20 years ago. Sitting on top of a beaver (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman). I gave it to the land owner. He didn’t think much of it. I wish so would of kept it. Never found anything since then
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Re: Some Stone Artifacts
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Keith. How much do the stone groove axes go for?? I found 1 20 years ago. Sitting on top of a beaver (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman). I gave it to the land owner. He didn’t think much of it. I wish so would of kept it. Never found anything since then Wayne, on Ebay grooved axes like those mostly sell between $80.00 and $200.00 each. Prettier stone, higher polish, larger size and no damage brings higher prices. I paid a little under $40.00 each on those averaged out. There should be more artifacts in that same area you found the axe in. Most of the artifacts I've found have been all in small areas, within feet of each other. The Native Americans apparently had a camp right where my back barn was. I've found a total of 60 some tools on 3 sides of my barn. Keith
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Re: Some Stone Artifacts
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This rock has a flattened out side on each side. Not sure what the original design was for....but I know what the indian that I sleep with uses it for....garlic crusher! Keeps it next to the rolling pin and pie plates. Carl, I think your wife's garlic crusher may be a nutting stone. Here's one for comparison. The small pecked out depression was enough to hold an acorn or other nut still, while it was smashed open with a hammer stone. Keith
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