Re: Diets matter.
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LOL...but her meat eating savage brother (me) also has high cholesterol which I am now pounding down with statins.
What if its not the her vegetables or your meats... what if its all the super processed grain slop, soy oil soaked, corn syrup injected sludge chemical concoctions that y'all (and almost every person) eat with it?
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Re: Diets matter.
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Seriously guys, diet is important, but exercise is king. Not kidding. If you get a lot of exercise you can basically eat what you want. If WEIGHT is the only metric that matters to you then sure. If HEALTH is most important then this is completely wrong. My truck would look great if I wash it every day but if I pee in the gas tank and put sand in the oil reservoir it really doesn't matter!
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Re: Diets matter.
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Seriously guys, diet is important, but exercise is king. Not kidding. If you get a lot of exercise you can basically eat what you want. If WEIGHT is the only metric that matters to you then sure. If HEALTH is most important then this is completely wrong. My truck would look great if I wash it every day but if I pee in the gas tank and put sand in the oil reservoir it really doesn't matter! I'm not suggesting you eat pee and sand.
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Re: Diets matter.
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if you have heart burn on any regular basis try cutting your sugar
I eventually figured out it was sugar and would avoid sugar after about 4pm so that I could sleep no beer after about 6 and stop eating anything a good 2 hours before bed
if I did eat a bunch of sugar I learned the hard way waking up to a mouth full of stomach acid at 2am and then puking my guts up it was a how much of the fun stuff could I get away with eating who didn't enjoy sweets , ice cream cake , pie
giving up the carbs for the diabetes , no heart burn
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Re: Diets matter.
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No matter how much exercise you get eventually diet will catch up with you. I still look like I did 5 years ago. I do not feel the same. It takes more time for muscle and joint recovery after a hard day of physical activity. I need to get some motivation. Maybe the back of the Yoga class would help.
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Re: Diets matter.
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Seriously guys, diet is important, but exercise is king. Not kidding. If you get a lot of exercise you can basically eat what you want. If WEIGHT is the only metric that matters to you then sure. If HEALTH is most important then this is completely wrong. My truck would look great if I wash it every day but if I pee in the gas tank and put sand in the oil reservoir it really doesn't matter! ^Yup. a good natural foods diet and a good aerobic capacity/strength program is what people need to increase the quality of life as we age..,
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Re: Diets matter.
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Slippery slope a lot of foods are full of salt, saturated fats and sugars of all different names that hide their true nature, cutting out pop and chocolate seems to of had the biggest impact on my diet. A person has to eat something so the problems begins first thing in the day but eggs, oatmeal fill that gap then it gets tougher there on out.
A lot of foods are converted into sugars quickly, it seems the more processed the quicker it converts into sugars. From what I gather the idea is to get the food to travel through the intestines while slowly releasing what it has to offer along the way rather then a dump it all at once spiking your sugar levels. You dont have to worry about salt or saturated fats. Its all BS Do worry about that bowl of oatmeal that will spike your blood sugar fast though.
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Re: Diets matter.
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LOL...but her meat eating savage brother (me) also has high cholesterol which I am now pounding down with statins.
What if its not the her vegetables or your meats... what if its all the super processed grain slop, soy oil soaked, corn syrup injected sludge chemical concoctions that y'all (and almost every person) eat with it? This guy gets it.
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Re: Diets matter.
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Avoid all processed foods.....eat foods that have one ingredient on the label....
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Re: Diets matter.
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140 cholesterol number? I would take that all day. Mine was 312 without medication. Just had blood work done yesterday. 181 total 117 LDL. Doctor wants LDL under 70. It’s in your genes. Put me on 10 mg rovastatin and check in 3 months. I have had problems with muscle aches before.
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Re: Diets matter.
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Most people know what they should do. It just has to get bad enough for many to do it. I was living in the south when a dietician told me that many of her clients refused to change their diet to extend and improve their quality of life. It's a little late when you're scheduled for amputation.
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Re: Diets matter.
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The issue with that is high protein diets are linked to brain issues my Doc said meat yes but portions the size of the palm of your hand not any bigger then that where fruits and vegetables don’t have that impact on the brain. Big difference in drinking juices and eating the pulp of the fruits on the intake side and digestion and absorbing the sugar. What brain issues? Carnivore diet is actually prescribed to solve a lot of " brain issues" Fruit and Juices impact the liver. They have the impact as eating a snickers bar. Pulp does not "absorb sugar", it is sugar.
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Re: Diets matter.
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For those that are having trouble and maybe need a direction to look, here's a short video that gives an idea of where you need to be headed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGwb8_hbzUMKevin, I'm not a Dr but I don't believe it's all genetic. I have seen study results that say low LDL like suggested leads to more chances of strokes and heart attacks. My mother passed years ago, almost 99. At 89 she had her first blood test ever. LDL 312, just like yours, but her good cholesterol was 72. Before I changed my eating I always had a lot of carbs in my diet, but I was a heavy exercise type person. Previous to last year my average HDL was 29. Been like that since in my 20's. Genetics? Went to removing almost all sugar and most carbs (always under 130/day, sometimes under 50) from my diet. Added much more fat. Last blood work in August, HDL is UP to 45. Triglycerides down from 98 to 58. VLDL down from 21 to 11. All markers in the positive direction. My Dr says, " but your cholesterol is up, 163". I told him I had sent a video to him explaining why many Dr's that follow this new approach with their patients didn't worry about that. He says, 'send it to me again". I sent him 2, haven't heard a word since.
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Re: Diets matter.
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Beaverpeeler back to the carotid arteries. Do you get yours ultra sounded every few years? I do, but so far no problem. My Swedish ancestry has bestowed upon our family that clotting gene. We tend to get strokes, however everyone lived into their 90's. A couple of my aunts had to get there carotids reamed out. But none of them gave one wit about what they ate. If you keep on top of things I'll bet you'll be fine eating the good stuff (meats, and animal fats), just stay away from the sugars and fake stuff.
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Re: Diets matter.
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3togo, My total cholesterol was 312. My father died at age 47 of a heart attack so I believe it is in my Genes. Also I had 3 stents put in 10 years ago when I was 47.
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