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Matrix lures #7473914
01/26/22 02:27 PM
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I've seen some lure makers call they're lures "matrix" lures. What are they trying to say with this description?

Thanks

Re: Matrix lures [Re: HoosierTrapper07] #7473983
01/26/22 03:46 PM
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The matrix scent cannot be saved that I ever heard of so it’s more of a name then a reality.


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Re: Matrix lures [Re: HoosierTrapper07] #7474259
01/26/22 08:00 PM
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They are trying to say it smells like a female in heat, I believe. Everything I've read says that smell can't be preserved, but plenty of lure makers claim to be selling it. I honestly don't know if they think they have a way to hold the scent in lure, if they are using synthetics to try and reproduce the scent, or if they know there isn't anything of the scent left in the lure but they call it matrix just to sell lure. I suspect a little of all of the above, depending on the luremaker.

Re: Matrix lures [Re: bearcat2] #7474448
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Originally Posted by bearcat2
They are trying to say it smells like a female in heat, I believe. Everything I've read says that smell can't be preserved, but plenty of lure makers claim to be selling it. I honestly don't know if they think they have a way to hold the scent in lure, if they are using synthetics to try and reproduce the scent, or if they know there isn't anything of the scent left in the lure but they call it matrix just to sell lure. I suspect a little of all of the above, depending on the luremaker.


Thank you very much. You answered all of my questions.

Re: Matrix lures [Re: HoosierTrapper07] #7474507
01/26/22 10:09 PM
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We can not keep the estrogen, it is so volatile that it will not stay. But I do believe that you can keep what I call solids or mucus components that are also present and part of the release at the time of estrogen. So when the male smells those they are attracted. This is why I believe with the doe in heat urine or scents, for example, made with the doe in heat urine will attract deer, unless the buck is on a real heat cycle doe, then the estrogen real-time takes over and holds.


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Re: Matrix lures [Re: HoosierTrapper07] #7475110
01/27/22 01:18 PM
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There are products and materials that can give you the matrix effect in predator lures to give you the interest you are seeking to have. It isn't common knowledge obviously but it is being done by a few who work in the field

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01/28/22 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Jameson
There are products and materials that can give you the matrix effect in predator lures to give you the interest you are seeking to have.

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Re: Matrix lures [Re: HoosierTrapper07] #7478450
01/30/22 09:13 AM
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I believe those smells that many are try to create are somewhat mimicked by adding blood and certain types of fish oil to glands.


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Re: Matrix lures [Re: HoosierTrapper07] #7478489
01/30/22 09:50 AM
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Years back I had a female Doc Russell that went into heat, my male at the time went love sick stupid if a person could replicate that he/she would be rich. LOL


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Re: Matrix lures [Re: Law Dog] #7478566
01/30/22 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Years back I had a female Doc Russell that went into heat, my male at the time went love sick stupid if a person could replicate that he/she would be rich. LOL

I've duplicated that love sick stupid thing a few times in my life but it cost me $. Now maybe if I would have focused on bank accounts instead physical traits maybe I would of had different outcomes. Lol

Re: Matrix lures [Re: HoosierTrapper07] #7478582
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Geez Seth too much information. Leave that beer alone and don't fall in love so easy when a gal says hello to you........

Re: Matrix lures [Re: HoosierTrapper07] #7482543
02/02/22 05:45 PM
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seth you had me thinking how the heck did he ohhh wait i get it lmao bahahahaha

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