Re: Rustoleum/gas dip issues
[Re: USMC47 🦫]
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02/26/22 09:40 AM
02/26/22 09:40 AM
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I get rust through the primer even. Usually takes me a solid year of use. Same here. I’m just trying to figure out why he’s having rust problems after only a week. I can’t help but think that the problem is due to the paint settling in the can leaving the watery layer at the top to be used. When the watery layer was thinned even more, it just wasn’t enough to do what it was supposed to...?
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Re: Rustoleum/gas dip issues
[Re: AK4love]
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02/26/22 03:27 PM
02/26/22 03:27 PM
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Whatever you do, keep the mixture thin. I thoroughly mix the primer with my drill to stir up that thick layer on the bottom of the can. Then I mix 1 part primer to 1 part thinner to get the desired amount, and then I add an additional part of thinner for good measure and again mix it well with my drill. 50/50 is even a little thicker than I like in my experience. I’d rather mix it too thin and have to dip it twice than to make it too thick the first time. One of the first times I dipped traps I had it a little on the thick side, and I’ll never do that again.
When I dip traps, new or used, I get them clean. I don’t intentionally let any rust develop, but I don’t worry if a very light layer forms. I Dip them, sling off any excess, and then I hang them to dry. I come back a few minutes later once the paint is just beginning to dry, and I slide the dogs and triggers over so that the primer/paint underneath them is able to air out and dry. I prefer doing this on a hot day, but sometimes we don’t have a choice when it comes to gear prep.
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Re: Rustoleum/gas dip issues
[Re: AK4love]
#7510328
02/26/22 05:47 PM
02/26/22 05:47 PM
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bearcat2, I have been on here many times stating I stop any rust with the tannic acid found in walnut hulls, maple or oak bark, sumac berries, logwood etc. etc., dye, then neutralize the minute amount of acid remaining with a lime or baking soda bath,,,,, then rinse and dry and paint with your rustoleum or gasoline dips or what ever. Pm if you need more info but I started doing this 25 years ago and sold my wax bucket with 12 lbs of wax to 2 young guys who just had to wax their traps........................... the mike
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Re: Rustoleum/gas dip issues
[Re: Pierce]
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02/26/22 06:10 PM
02/26/22 06:10 PM
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Montana
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I've never done it, but paint mixed 50/50 doesn't leave much solids left to give you much of a coat of paint. Mil thickness of the cured paint is going to be thin. Thin enough that air and moisture are getting though. So your rust is still developing under the wash coat of paint. My beaver traps are in the water about 5 months of the year, consistently. I use a thinner mix than 50/50. Maybe 60% mineral spirits and 40% rusty metal primer. I do t mess with dying or neutralizing or anything. Not saying anyone is wrong at all, just stating what works for me and that my traps are used heavily. When I lived in the southeast, a place with more acidic water, I had my traps in the water nearly all year long and this worked for me.
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Re: Rustoleum/gas dip issues
[Re: Wife]
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02/26/22 06:51 PM
02/26/22 06:51 PM
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Idaho
bearcat2
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bearcat2, I have been on here many times stating I stop any rust with the tannic acid found in walnut hulls, maple or oak bark, sumac berries, logwood etc. etc., dye, then neutralize the minute amount of acid remaining with a lime or baking soda bath,,,,, then rinse and dry and paint with your rustoleum or gasoline dips or what ever. Pm if you need more info but I started doing this 25 years ago and sold my wax bucket with 12 lbs of wax to 2 young guys who just had to wax their traps........................... the mike Thanks, I was wondering whether the dye would bleed through the paint. Personally I like dyed and waxed traps, but I also like white traps for using in snow. And frankly if I'm trapping in dirt the trap is covered anyways, so a white trap isn't much of a detriment. So I was wondering if I could just dip my older dyed traps (wax removed, obviously) in paint and have them stay white.
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Re: Rustoleum/gas dip issues
[Re: USMC47 🦫]
#7510396
02/26/22 07:06 PM
02/26/22 07:06 PM
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Wisconsin
Pierce
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I've never done it, but paint mixed 50/50 doesn't leave much solids left to give you much of a coat of paint. Mil thickness of the cured paint is going to be thin. Thin enough that air and moisture are getting though. So your rust is still developing under the wash coat of paint. My beaver traps are in the water about 5 months of the year, consistently. I use a thinner mix than 50/50. Maybe 60% mineral spirits and 40% rusty metal primer. I do t mess with dying or neutralizing or anything. Not saying anyone is wrong at all, just stating what works for me and that my traps are used heavily. When I lived in the southeast, a place with more acidic water, I had my traps in the water nearly all year long and this worked for me. I can't, shouldn't and won't argue, I was looking at it from painting experience not real world trapping experience. I've never paint dipped traps. So, I was only guessing at the cause of the OPs problems. Are you dipping yours more than one coat? I wonder too if maybe the primer is bonding better than plain paint on bare metal does?
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