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Otter vs beaver? #7515448
03/02/22 11:36 PM
03/02/22 11:36 PM
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Yukon John Offline OP
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Okay in my limited experience, otter seem to be way easier than beaver to catch. Is this just a luck thing on my part, or does this jive with y'alls experience?


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Re: Otter vs beaver? [Re: Yukon John] #7515455
03/02/22 11:45 PM
03/02/22 11:45 PM
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I'd argue the opposite unless you are really lucky and are in an area with a dense population of otters. I haven't found otters to be overly skeptical of a set necessarily. It seems to me like a gambling game. Will they be in the area you have your sets and will they move while there in the path of your traps while they are there? If you can control those two factors I'd say they become potentially easier than beaver to catch.

Re: Otter vs beaver? [Re: Yukon John] #7515461
03/02/22 11:50 PM
03/02/22 11:50 PM
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Certainly not my experience. Otters are quick learners and are experts at avoiding above water conibears. But if you got good crossovers or other good pinch points they can be fairly easy to catch.

On the other hand, for many many years I was convinced that there was no such thing as a trap shy beaver. I hadn't met one yet anyway.


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Re: Otter vs beaver? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7515484
03/03/22 12:09 AM
03/03/22 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Certainly not my experience. Otters are quick learners and are experts at avoiding above water conibears. But if you got good crossovers or other good pinch points they can be fairly easy to catch.

On the other hand, for many many years I was convinced that there was no such thing as a trap shy beaver. I hadn't met one yet anyway.

Trap shy seems to be beaver's middle names on my line! Seems as if I'd have better luck with dynamite, but I'm not one to give up easily!


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Re: Otter vs beaver? [Re: Yukon John] #7515528
03/03/22 01:21 AM
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I dont find one any harder to trap than the other.
Once you learn their habits its pretty straightforward.
Biggest difference between catching beaver and catching otter is there are more beaver out there than there are otter,and beaver are basically a captive audience so to speak compared to otter.
One aspect of otter trapping that makes them easier to catch than beaver is once you identify key locations on your trapline they will produce otter year after year pretty much guaranteed.


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Re: Otter vs beaver? [Re: Yukon John] #7515677
03/03/22 09:02 AM
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For me beaver are easier to trap as they are right there.Otter travel and might be gone for weeks at a time.


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Re: Otter vs beaver? [Re: Yukon John] #7515700
03/03/22 09:22 AM
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To catch either of them in blind sets, it is location, location, location. If you have the good location, they can be caught as a general rule. But if you do not have the good pinch point location, beaver can generally be lured to a location and be caught.

Otter travel as stated above and IMO, are not lured as easily as beaver even it they stay in an area for a while. Otter are far less predictable than beaver IMO.


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Re: Otter vs beaver? [Re: Yukon John] #7515750
03/03/22 10:04 AM
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Beaver , more prevalent here.
I get my otter tags filled but it takes time


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Re: Otter vs beaver? [Re: Yukon John] #7515980
03/03/22 01:26 PM
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Boco is spot-on, in my experience.


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Re: Otter vs beaver? [Re: alaska viking] #7515991
03/03/22 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by alaska viking
Boco is spot-on, in my experience.

Mine also.


The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.






Re: Otter vs beaver? [Re: Yukon John] #7516021
03/03/22 02:08 PM
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I don't believe animals are TRAP SHY. I believe they are SET SHY.


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Re: Otter vs beaver? [Re: Yukon John] #7516028
03/03/22 02:14 PM
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Re: Otter vs beaver? [Re: alaska viking] #7516361
03/03/22 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by alaska viking
Boco is spot-on, in my experience.

Me too.

I'll add that many times I've said the best otter set is a good beaver set. Not a castor mound, but any blind set for a beaver, spillway set in a dam, 330 in a channel, etc. will catch every otter that passes through. I also love setting otter toilets, but a spillway set on a dam (whether currently active or an old abandoned beaver dam) is as good as it gets for otter if there are any traveling the stream.

Re: Otter vs beaver? [Re: Yukon John] #7516608
03/03/22 11:13 PM
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Thanks all great info! I set a gauntlet up today for beaver, if I don't catch at least one then I'm gonna have to disagree with all of ya!


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Re: Otter vs beaver? [Re: bearcat2] #7516688
03/04/22 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by bearcat2
Originally Posted by alaska viking
Boco is spot-on, in my experience.

Me too.

a spillway set on a dam (whether currently active or an old abandoned beaver dam) is as good as it gets for otter if there are any traveling the stream.
Don't forget to look for dam cross overs either side of the main spilway, towards the shore, often used by otter.


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Re: Otter vs beaver? [Re: Yukon John] #7516705
03/04/22 02:25 AM
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Yes, where I grew up any crossover with even the slightest trickle at high water times was termed a spillway. I tend to forget that others call that a crossover, which is a term I never used. If I'm setting for otter I will set every crossover/spillway on a dam that I can put a drowning set on. Usually will also for beaver, unless I am dealing with a trapwise beaver and don't want to make much disturbance.

Actually here we are limited to three otter, so I don't always gang set as heavily as I do other places, because I've overcaught my limit in one check before.

Re: Otter vs beaver? [Re: Yukon John] #7516831
03/04/22 08:48 AM
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In my area otter are not over abundant...well nothing is really. However, that being said, once the beaver are thinned down in and area you can start picking the otter up. If I'm just straight otter trapping, I tend to set different locations than if I'm beaver trapping. For instance the corners of beaver dams, the smaller trickles of water coming into a bigger creek, bottom edges, and off course their toilets. Beaver can be caught in a number of different sets regularly. From blind sets to castor mounds and other lured sets. Otter....not so much. For me to be consistent with otter it's straight blind setting 330's. To some degree I really think it's an equal race here. It's all in what you're going after and how you approach it.

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