Re: TE or BE for rats & mink in culverts?
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03/09/22 10:11 AM
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I’d go a foothold on the edge of the walls I think it will improve your numbers.
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Re: TE or BE for rats & mink in culverts?
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03/09/22 12:45 PM
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I'm not worried about theft, I just don't want to set both a TE and BE on each side and lose four traps, especially when I'm catching $4 rats. Nor should you need too, unless as SNIPERB mentioned, there is prey habitat on the bottom causing the mink to hunt. If there is no prey habitat I suggest capitalizing on a mink's (an rat's) inherent behavior of swimming on the surface when there is overhead cover. I tested this theory 2 consecutive years on several old, concrete-walled bridges on my line. I built a TE trap holder that allowed for me to also set a body-grip directly below making for a TE on top and a BE on the bottom. None of these bridges had any prey cover under them and the catch ratio of the TE completely blew away the BE in mink AND rat catches. In my experience, there are far better BE set locations away from the bridges.
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Re: TE or BE for rats & mink in culverts?
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03/09/22 12:58 PM
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I do this. It always seems like the bottom produces better for me. I thought it would be the other way around but this is what I find. We cannot set the bridges here so this is out in the open with no cover. A brick with a 110 wired to it sets nicely along the bottom and it's hard to see Sometimes the grassy trails outperform these sets for me. But my terrain is different than yours. We have a lot of flat land with grass.
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Re: TE or BE for rats & mink in culverts?
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03/09/22 01:20 PM
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Catch them before thy get to the culvert. I've seen where rats will shy away from an exposed BG. And lots of times In shallow water the rats will swim on the top when going through a culvert. Now If that culvert Is full to the top then the rats and mink will swim on the bottom. And of coarse you will find In some situations the mink will take out before the culvert and cross the road.
A baited / lured pocket set, set up with a #2 or a 11/2, made about 10' or so from the mouth of the culvert would In my mind catch you more fur and with less work. But of coarse then your going to have to deal with coon.
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Re: TE or BE for rats & mink in culverts?
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03/09/22 02:43 PM
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Always amazes me how diffrent areas get such diffrent results.Up here in northern Maine a mink trapper setting baited sets will starve.Oh you will catch a mink or two up here but will catch many more mink with blind sets.Then I read out in the midwest and south pocket sets are the way to go.Go figure.Very interesting.
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Re: TE or BE for rats & mink in culverts?
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03/10/22 02:54 AM
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The Beav
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A mink spends more time on dry land then It does In the water.
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Re: TE or BE for rats & mink in culverts?
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03/10/22 09:37 AM
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A mink spends more time on dry land then It does In the water. Depends on where they are.Around farm country alot of time on dry land.In the deep woods not quite as much on dry land at least up here in northern Maine in the woods.Then again up here in the woods you can't spit but hit a stream or body of water.
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Re: TE or BE for rats & mink in culverts?
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On those shallow water steel culverts I would use a homemade sand bag to stabilize and bed the trap.
For those that use a TE system In those cement culverts why not just In the off season go around and use your cordless drill to drill some holes In the wall and then set a anchor so you could bolt some type of stabilizer to the wall.
But I still think you can catch the majority your rats and mink before they get to the culvert In a blind set or pocket set.
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