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Re: Pan Tension over time in the ground
[Re: DugK]
#7514915
03/02/22 03:44 PM
03/02/22 03:44 PM
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Joined: May 2007
Posts: 2,626 Flint, Michigan
bhugo
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Joined: May 2007
Posts: 2,626
Flint, Michigan
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I use the k9 extremes. I set them to have 4-5 lbs just by feel. I have not had that issue. I use waxed sand for bedding now. If a trap is frozen in, it could definitely act like that. I used to use calcium chloride before with victor and Montgomery dog on traps years ago. It would cause a lot of rust compared to using waxed sand. I think it’s quite possible that you had rust develop in the pan pivot. Wax can also stiffen up in the cold if there’s too much wax as well. I have not had wax make as big a difference as you described though.
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Re: Pan Tension over time in the ground
[Re: DugK]
#7532218
03/19/22 06:08 AM
03/19/22 06:08 AM
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Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,971 Peoria County Illinois
Larry Baer
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Peoria County Illinois
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I like to set each trap and make sure it works the way I want it to before I bed it. Sometimes here in the Midwest even though my trap is set into waxed dirt or sand there will be frost and ice on the bottom of the pan and under the screen when I pull the trap. I think this ice in this space can affect my trap's performance. I have used regular dry dirt for years and found the regular dry dirt will suck moisture from the surrounding soil and eventually it will freeze the trap down. I switched to calcium chloride like lots of people did trying different techniques bust was never satisfied with the wet looking pattern and the rust on my traps. Sometimes the calcium would collect too much water in it when I used too much and it would make the soil like pudding making the trap vault out of the bed. My corn field in front of my house has 11 types of soil in it. My point is that it could be your soil and how your trap works in it. For me I now collect sandy soil and wax it and now have a consistent way to keep my traps working and just top dress with whatever soil I am working with. I stopped using all salt products. I used Bridger #3 dogless and the K9 Extremes also. Both are good traps. I never had any issues after I figured out my soil. The water issues are tough here. Sometimes I dig a bed and water comes filtering into the trap bed and the next day it's a puddle. Sometimes you can find a different spot ten feet away ad it will stay dry for a month. Make sure your wax is hot and it gets into the working mechanism of the trap. A waxed trap is smooth. If your wax is cold or if you do not leave it in the wax long enough for the trap to become the temperature of the wax sometimes the wax will not get into the area where the bolt is tight against the post and pan. A little Calcium can get in there and expand that area with corrosion and make your trap harder to set off.
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Re: Pan Tension over time in the ground
[Re: DugK]
#7532305
03/19/22 09:11 AM
03/19/22 09:11 AM
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Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,225 Midland, MI.
Seldom
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The more moving of waxed parts of the trap pan components, the more change in pan tension when used in the cold temps. All of my traps are checked and adjusted for final pan in prep for setting at 3.5-4lbs. I found in that in single digit temps my pan tension doubled even though encapsulated properly in waxed sand.
Finding this, I did some testing out my back door on my deck with overnight temps of 6*F just to verify it was the waxed components themselves. I duplicated and verified my original finding of doubled pan tension!
"A few want to know WHY, the majority appear to be satisfied just knowing HOW!" Youtube Channel- SeldomFales
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