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Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation [Re: Wolfdog91] #7537021
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When I was coming up it was shotgun only by choice since everyone ran dogs. The first rifles I recall were 30/06 or 30-30. Then .270s got popular mostly winchester but some guys wanted the shiniest and flashiest and they went for the weatherby. There were a few other calibers floating around, I recall some who liked the 308 over the 06 and there was a few who shot the 243 while the 25-06 was rumored to be a flat shooter. But the one the one that seemed to come on strong that everyone just had to have was the 7mm Remington Magnum. That one was the hot ticket and opened the door for all the latest and greatest super magnums that came and went. The 6.5 has kind of surprised me by not being just another flash in the pan and hanging around as long as it has. BUT if you take a good look at it it is everything the various magnums are not, namely barrel and powder burning shoulder bruisers, and everything that has always killed game just like the century plus 6.5x55.

Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation [Re: Wolfdog91] #7537027
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The name is marketing genius. The 6.5 creedmore is like the McDonalds of the rifle world .

Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation [Re: Wolfdog91] #7537039
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I don't hate the 6.5 Creedmoor. The fanboy following "latest and greatest" nonsense is a bit irksome. But I don't see anything necessarily wrong with it.

Wife and I were coming off the range one day and these 2 fellas we're getting ready to go out... Father and son. Father was my age or a bit older. Son was early to mid 20's. The dad saw my wife's rifle and asked what my wife was shooting. She told him it was a .308 Win. He congratulated her, turned to his boy and said, "She's shooting a man's rifle. Not a 6.5"

I thought that poor kid was going to melt he was blushing so much.

My local guy stocks a lot of 6.5's though. He's not a huge fan, but they sell good.

Mike


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Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation [Re: Wolfdog91] #7537042
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Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation [Re: Scuba1] #7537043
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And that worked in a smooth bore musket ??? I am confused now

Lol.....my generation is now. grin


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Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation [Re: Wolfdog91] #7537044
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
So was listing to a podcast about cartridges and the like and it seems every generation has a "wonder round" . Big marketing campaigns ,yadda yadda yadda. 6.5creed just seems to be my generations ( also might have to do the the fact I can get actually get ammo and a gun for under $500). Anyhow what was the 6.5 Creed for y'all ?


The shotgun. Where I lived, rifles were only allowed for hunting coyotes at night. They couldn't be hunted with in the day. Shotguns and .22s were where it was at when I was a youngun.

But I chuckle at you saying the 6.5 Creedmore is a wonder round. In my circle, if you own a 6.5 Creed you might as well dip it in a rainbow flag because you've already been labeled as gay, lol.


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Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation [Re: Wolfdog91] #7537045
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Mine was 308. I could get all the match grade ball ammo I could shoot, then reload the brass. That little Winchester Model 100 sure killed a lot of game.



Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation [Re: Wolfdog91] #7537055
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Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7537058
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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
Mine was 308. I could get all the match grade ball ammo I could shoot, then reload the brass. That little Winchester Model 100 sure killed a lot of game.

wifes got a 100 and dads got an 88 both in 308. great guns except the best thing that could be said about the trigger pull was that it made the gun go off.

Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation [Re: Bigfoot] #7537066
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Originally Posted by Bigfoot
The name is marketing genius. The 6.5 creedmore is like the man bun of the rifle world .


Fixed it for ya


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Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation [Re: Wolfdog91] #7537067
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There was no fanfare for new cartridges like there is now for the Creed. I'm talking the late'60's/early 70's. Take a look at cartridges developed in that time frame and you'll be hard pressed to find any commonly used round in the bunch.

The vast majority used old and very common rounds, 30-30, 30-06 covered well over 1/2 of the deer guns out there. Occasionally someone would have an uncommon caliber like .300 savage only because they came across a decent gun at a good price, used 9 out of 10 times.

Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7537070
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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
Mine was 308. I could get all the match grade ball ammo I could shoot, then reload the brass. That little Winchester Model 100 sure killed a lot of game.


the .308 came out in the mid '50's, thanks, now I don't feel so old. grin

Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation [Re: Wolfdog91] #7537076
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If I was looking for another Deer gun I'd pass on any round that hasn't been around for at least 50 years and is fairly common. The older the better.

There will be more guns out there chambered for that round so that means I will be able to find old quality guns and a greater variety of guns to buy. There will be greater availability of ammunition available not only in stores but other places too. And odds are there is a greater amount of knowledge out there for that round.

Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation [Re: Wolfdog91] #7537081
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The short mags eere big when i hit my 20s, that and plastic stocks which ruined the way a gun looks.

Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation [Re: Wolfdog91] #7537087
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My Father's pre 64 243 FWT for 4 of us while in high school. My first personal rifle was a 264 Win. Magnum.

Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation [Re: aknome] #7537088
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There wasn’t an “in” rifle, like the 6.5 Creed, when I bought my first. No popularity contest won with majority of voters being women and frail bodied men, who were afraid of a little recoil.

Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation [Re: danny clifton] #7537127
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
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I get that the ballistics are unreal
nope. just hype


The hype is what drives the Creedmoor crowd. Hornady had the best marketing team going when the round was introduced to drive it as the "best ever". It does absolutely nothing that a plethora of other cartridges do at least as well.
A couple weeks back, I had a younger guy bring a new rifle to my shop for me to mount a scope and zero for him...yep a 6.5 Creedmoor..he proceeded to tell me to zero it dead on at 300 yards because he'd never shoot it at less than 300, because the Bullet "wasn't up to full speed" until 300 yards out,, and that way, it'd be dead on out to a 1000 yards..put the crosshairs on and pull the trigger. I asked him it it had a rocket motor on it, because that's the only way it would get faster after the bullet left the muzzle... The hype and misinformation is what has turned me into "anything but a Creedmoor" snob, lol.

Back to the OP, I'd say the 308 Winchester. Grew up shooting the 308, everything from groundhogs to black bear, paper and steel targets out to 1200 yards, and even 2 legged varmints a time or 3 while in government employment. Various assortment of rifles, from an H&R HandiRifle, Rem. 700, Winchester. Model 70, custom 98 Mauser, various Savage bolt guns, USMC M40A1/ 2. The 308 Winchester has never failed to do what I asked of it.

Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7537217
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
Originally Posted by danny clifton
When I look at the 6.5 numbers I dont see where its any better than a lot of other cartridges. I believe now, ( i didnt when I was young) that the primary purpose of outdoor publications is to sell stuff. The more they can sell the more they can charge for ads and ads disguised as articles.

In order to keep gun sales up gun manufacturers need new stuff. It doesn't have to be better than their "old" offerings it just needs magazine articles to sell it.

I bought a 270 cause Jack O Conner kept pointing out how much it out performed the 30-06. I am a little more experienced now and as great a cartridge as the 270 is the stuff I shoot with it isnt any deader than stuff shot with my old 06.

it is basically a modernized shorter action 6.5 swede , 6.5 swede was alwasy a good cartridge but ammo for it and the 1896 rifles chambered in it was not being laoded to it's potential in many cases becasue of the old rifle concern.

6.5 creedmore was made for punching holes in paper at distance , then people hyped it for hunting inside 300 yards it had no more power than 308


Count me in this group. Here's some data from Hodgdon [Linked Image]

I do think the 6.5 mm/.264 bullet has a lot of merit. Didn't WDM Bell kill elephants with a 6.5 something or other around the turn of the century?

Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation [Re: Wolfdog91] #7537225
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Fred bear killed an elephant with his bow. Shot it at 15 yards or something in the forehead. From what I read he had to be that close to get the angle right so the arrow would penetrate into its brain. The spot that has to be hit is not very big. I never saw an elephant outside the zoo and that recount is from memory. Maybe somebody else can look it up?


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Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation [Re: coonlove] #7537226
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Originally Posted by coonlove
A pretty fair milestone was in the late 1950's when Winchester introduced their belted mag. line including the .264,.338 .458 and finally the .300 Win Mag.



And only 50 years behind Holland and Holland.

To me the 280 and 7mm-08 was the last "rage".


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