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Re: Food Shortages [Re: yukonjeff] #7539530
03/26/22 11:20 AM
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My wife likes to plant a garden every year. It can be enjoyable for her but we don't need it. There is so much available here in the summer. If they can't sell it, they'll give it away. The amount of food that goes to waste is crazy..I think it was Buffet that said " Private enterprise is always one step ahead of government" . People in general are industrious, and will figure things out. Government is always trying to scare us into submission. I'm not buying it

Re: Food Shortages [Re: yukonjeff] #7539536
03/26/22 11:26 AM
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In your opinion what would cause a disturbution issue here in the US

Re: Food Shortages [Re: yukonjeff] #7539538
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If the global market is what determines the price of fertilizer, fuel, and the crops that are grown with them, how can we expect anything except higher prices to come from the war in Ukraine and the shortages that result? Add in a wet planting season or severe drought and food prices will be crushing for much of the world.

We will certainly see politicians doing their best to make political hay from it when it comes, one party will look to blame the one in power and the other will try to hand out money we don't have to make voters thing they are sympathetic to their plight. It's going to be a long couple years. They may make 2020 look like it was a cakewalk.

Re: Food Shortages [Re: yukonjeff] #7539548
03/26/22 11:36 AM
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This bureaucratic nonsense will inflate food prices to ridiculous levels. It's not a food shortage

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Re: Food Shortages [Re: yukonjeff] #7539558
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As has been stated several times, the cost of fuel, fertilizer, seed, and equipment will break the farmers' backs. Not that they aren't able to grow food.


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Re: Food Shortages [Re: yukonjeff] #7539560
03/26/22 11:49 AM
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The cities will suffer first. The country boy will survive.


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Re: Food Shortages [Re: yukonjeff] #7539570
03/26/22 11:57 AM
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Ukraine and Russia grow a lot of wheat. If they're busy warring and not farming, that lost percentage of wheat is going to have to come from somewhere. A lot of you seem to think that all the wheat the US grows stays in the US but unfortunately that's not how it works. Now if Trump was still in there, and we were facing a global shortage, you could be sure he would be taking steps to make sure more of the US grown grains stay here. But Trump's not in office, and we have a global market. There won't be as much wheat in that global market. So, prices for what wheat is there, which will be less than demand (thus a food shortage) will increase dramatically.


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Re: Food Shortages [Re: yotetrapper30] #7539589
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Ukraine and Russia grow a lot of wheat. If they're busy warring and not farming, that lost percentage of wheat is going to have to come from somewhere. A lot of you seem to think that all the wheat the US grows stays in the US but unfortunately that's not how it works. Now if Trump was still in there, and we were facing a global shortage, you could be sure he would be taking steps to make sure more of the US grown grains stay here. But Trump's not in office, and we have a global market. There won't be as much wheat in that global market. So, prices for what wheat is there, which will be less than demand (thus a food shortage) will increase dramatically.

If supplies are tight with any good traded in a free market system the price with increase, the tighter the supply the higher the price. And, just as we see with oil prices right now, high prices and high profits will make those who control the goods and their stock holders happy. Look at the energy stocks in your portfolio today compared to during the shut down.

Re: Food Shortages [Re: yukonjeff] #7539608
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And it all goes to and starts with who's in the Whitehouse.

I really don't believe we'd be facing all these problems if Biden wasn't in there.

Re: Food Shortages [Re: yukonjeff] #7539616
03/26/22 12:53 PM
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Ukraine and Russia normally do 1/3 of ALL grain exports. It will make life interesting to say the least in the coming year. Ukraine and Russia also export a lot of our fertilizer needs as well.


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Re: Food Shortages [Re: VaBeagler] #7539623
03/26/22 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by VaBeagler
Scary times ahead. I own 155 acres. 35 acres in grassland. I pay the taxes for the farm and expenses from hay sales. Can't afford to fertilize my hayfields this year. I will produce a third of the hay that I normally do. Of course the price of a roll of hay will increase but not as much as the increase in fuel and labor.



You better save some of that hay... you'll need it because you won't be able to afford salad!

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Re: Food Shortages [Re: yukonjeff] #7539625
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To all those beer drinkers- there is a shortage of Aluminum cans, guess why Russian owned companies predominate this industry

ever wonder why scrap Al cans are $ 1.05 a pound now

Re: Food Shortages [Re: yukonjeff] #7539767
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I don't think anyone means, barring supply chain issues leaving shelves temporarily empty, that it will be impossible to find wheat products. They'll be available. The question will be whether or not you can afford them.


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Re: Food Shortages [Re: yukonjeff] #7539869
03/26/22 04:55 PM
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If you do not (by now, after the covid effects) realize that anything is possible your not too bright.....

It may very well be that biden is slipping and letting things he hears in classified meetings slip when he speaks in public. He really is not 'in charge' after all.....front man and his replacement is a front woman. I believe that things could get real ugly, real fast...or that may take a while.


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Re: Food Shortages [Re: yukonjeff] #7539879
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Guess I should plant 20 to 30 acres of wheat. I can rent the seed drill but would have no way of harvesting. I don't think I'm up to cutting it by hand and thrashing on the barn floor.

Re: Food Shortages [Re: yukonjeff] #7539898
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Remember== Eat all that is on your plate, there is kids in China starving.

Re: Food Shortages [Re: Foxpaw] #7539902
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
Remember== Eat all that is on your plate, there is kids in China starving.

Favorite saying of my mom until I got old enough to say let's send it to them.

Re: Food Shortages [Re: Providence Farm] #7539939
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Guess I should plant 20 to 30 acres of wheat. I can rent the seed drill but would have no way of harvesting. I don't think I'm up to cutting it by hand and thrashing on the barn floor.


Little late now anyhow. Think it's winter wheat they grow in IN.


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Re: Food Shortages [Re: danny clifton] #7540020
03/26/22 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
We are being lied to. Russia and Ukraine have nothing at all to do with devaluation of the dollar.

Agreed


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Re: Food Shortages [Re: yotetrapper30] #7540028
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Guess I should plant 20 to 30 acres of wheat. I can rent the seed drill but would have no way of harvesting. I don't think I'm up to cutting it by hand and thrashing on the barn floor.


Little late now anyhow. Think it's winter wheat they grow in IN.



Yep I use it and rye alternately for cover crops. Got to corner the market for next year. I'm planning for early retirement don't you know.

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