Re: Food Shortages
[Re: yukonjeff]
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03/26/22 11:36 AM
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This bureaucratic nonsense will inflate food prices to ridiculous levels. It's not a food shortage
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Re: Food Shortages
[Re: yukonjeff]
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03/26/22 11:48 AM
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As has been stated several times, the cost of fuel, fertilizer, seed, and equipment will break the farmers' backs. Not that they aren't able to grow food.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: Food Shortages
[Re: yukonjeff]
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03/26/22 11:57 AM
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Ukraine and Russia grow a lot of wheat. If they're busy warring and not farming, that lost percentage of wheat is going to have to come from somewhere. A lot of you seem to think that all the wheat the US grows stays in the US but unfortunately that's not how it works. Now if Trump was still in there, and we were facing a global shortage, you could be sure he would be taking steps to make sure more of the US grown grains stay here. But Trump's not in office, and we have a global market. There won't be as much wheat in that global market. So, prices for what wheat is there, which will be less than demand (thus a food shortage) will increase dramatically.
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Re: Food Shortages
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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03/26/22 12:17 PM
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Ukraine and Russia grow a lot of wheat. If they're busy warring and not farming, that lost percentage of wheat is going to have to come from somewhere. A lot of you seem to think that all the wheat the US grows stays in the US but unfortunately that's not how it works. Now if Trump was still in there, and we were facing a global shortage, you could be sure he would be taking steps to make sure more of the US grown grains stay here. But Trump's not in office, and we have a global market. There won't be as much wheat in that global market. So, prices for what wheat is there, which will be less than demand (thus a food shortage) will increase dramatically. If supplies are tight with any good traded in a free market system the price with increase, the tighter the supply the higher the price. And, just as we see with oil prices right now, high prices and high profits will make those who control the goods and their stock holders happy. Look at the energy stocks in your portfolio today compared to during the shut down.
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Re: Food Shortages
[Re: yukonjeff]
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03/26/22 12:53 PM
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Ukraine and Russia normally do 1/3 of ALL grain exports. It will make life interesting to say the least in the coming year. Ukraine and Russia also export a lot of our fertilizer needs as well.
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Re: Food Shortages
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03/26/22 01:03 PM
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Scary times ahead. I own 155 acres. 35 acres in grassland. I pay the taxes for the farm and expenses from hay sales. Can't afford to fertilize my hayfields this year. I will produce a third of the hay that I normally do. Of course the price of a roll of hay will increase but not as much as the increase in fuel and labor. You better save some of that hay... you'll need it because you won't be able to afford salad! Pete
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Re: Food Shortages
[Re: yukonjeff]
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03/26/22 03:20 PM
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I don't think anyone means, barring supply chain issues leaving shelves temporarily empty, that it will be impossible to find wheat products. They'll be available. The question will be whether or not you can afford them.
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Re: Food Shortages
[Re: yukonjeff]
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03/26/22 04:55 PM
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If you do not (by now, after the covid effects) realize that anything is possible your not too bright.....
It may very well be that biden is slipping and letting things he hears in classified meetings slip when he speaks in public. He really is not 'in charge' after all.....front man and his replacement is a front woman. I believe that things could get real ugly, real fast...or that may take a while.
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Re: Food Shortages
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Remember== Eat all that is on your plate, there is kids in China starving. Favorite saying of my mom until I got old enough to say let's send it to them.
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Re: Food Shortages
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03/26/22 06:05 PM
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Guess I should plant 20 to 30 acres of wheat. I can rent the seed drill but would have no way of harvesting. I don't think I'm up to cutting it by hand and thrashing on the barn floor. Little late now anyhow. Think it's winter wheat they grow in IN.
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Re: Food Shortages
[Re: danny clifton]
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03/26/22 07:46 PM
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We are being lied to. Russia and Ukraine have nothing at all to do with devaluation of the dollar. Agreed
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Re: Food Shortages
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03/26/22 07:51 PM
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Guess I should plant 20 to 30 acres of wheat. I can rent the seed drill but would have no way of harvesting. I don't think I'm up to cutting it by hand and thrashing on the barn floor. Little late now anyhow. Think it's winter wheat they grow in IN. Yep I use it and rye alternately for cover crops. Got to corner the market for next year. I'm planning for early retirement don't you know.
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