This certainly won't be the issue that makes Republicans grow a set, since Republicans also favor gun control.

How many years now have serial numbers been required on firearms? Law hasn’t changed has it?

1968 Gun Control Act.

Any gun law, is one gun law too many.

They all need to be repealed and go back to "shall not be infringed"

Neither major party supports that position. If you want politicians to make a return to what the constitution says, you have to vote third party.

Which does nothing at all.

I have to ask you third party voters......

Give me an example of a third party candidate you voted for that did anything towards getting your rights back.
(Ones that got elected as republicans and then switched don't count as being voted in as third party)

Not many people at all support that position.

charles,

Home made fire arms dont need a serial number or require a NICS check under federal law.

Some local law is different.

ATF at the request of Democrat party bosses, said they are changing the definition of home made.

Receivers marketed as 80% complete will now be called firearms and require serial #'s and a NICS check to purchase.

Yep. There certainly are a lot of foolish people that believe firearm laws reduce violent crime. It is much easier to claim that than address real problems. Like organized criminal enterprises usually called a gang, that exist to distribute drugs that are also illegal. The foolish can pass any laws they like but just like the impossibility of stopping or curtailing drug use by passing rights violating law, it is impossible to get those gangs to disarm.

Anybody know how many outlaws abstain from gun violence due to NICS checks?

to get the 'right data' on firearms without #'s used in crimes they included firearms that had #'s removed from them......you know filed off by criminals.

I'm guessing he means to vote third party.

Third party candidates have some good ideas, some bad but I'd vote for one if they ever put together a campaign capable of getting one elected. As is, they're just a dream.

Hippie, its because people believe the talking heads on TV. The model on CNN or FOX is reading from a teleprompter. The people writing the words she is reading, have little or no influence over the third party. So they ridicule the candidate marginalize their views, misquote them, and tell viewers they cant win. So they dont win. Instead people vote the way they are told. D or R only. Can't have anyone wanting to change anything. Its OK to talk about change, its OK to point out problems, just not OK to really have positive change.

Johnston had no trouble getting air time, he just couldn't answer anything. Their problem is they either don't have the money to campaign or don't spend it campaigning.

It takes alot of money and time but whatever their problem is, they are not remotely a viable option in our elections.

And Danny, they need to drop a couple of their stances, one big one being open borders.

No, I was talking about my position on firearms laws.

But, as you state, about voting third party. I do agree that their should be a third party option. Not a lot support that position, or they don't see the viability of it. They are usually so entrenched in the two party system that they don't see if many people voted third option, things may change. Unfortunately, I don't think at this time we would be able to run a third party candidate and win. It would have to be a majority of freedom loving Americans that would go over to a third party. And, we wouldn't win, because the people on the left will still vote for the left, same with the alleged constitution supporters who say they love freedom for all but then go into a booth and vote for someone who hates the constitution. They may not say they hate it, but they sure vote against it an awful lot.

I will never understand a person saying that they support the right to keep and bear arms, then walk into a booth and vote for any democrat and most republicans. It may not be right and I may be a hypocrite but, as long as there are only two options, I will vote for the one who wants to take the least amount of my rights. Usually that is the republican candidate. Same goes for local elections, I vote for the person who wants to uphold my rights and the rights of others. Then I spend the next few years calling them and making sure they are upholding their oath that they took and the obligations they have to the people they represent.

Sorry, I know better than to speak for someone else.

I just read it different I guess.

anyone who thinks we will be able to vote our way out of this is delusional...ya'll need to embrace the reality of things and then you will be able to understand what is necessary.

No worries, I think we are on the same page.