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Re: Some Stone Artifacts [Re: MnMan] #7466040
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Originally Posted by MnMan
Wow, you guys have found some amazing artifacts. I don't have any tools or points but I did find this stone effigy pipe 68 years ago when I was playing by a creek as a kid.

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I put the stem in it from a piece of hollowed out sumac.


Nice find. Did you ever use it?

Keith

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Re: Some Stone Artifacts [Re: KeithC] #7466050
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Originally Posted by foxkidd44
Originally Posted by MJM
Here is a different angle of the doughnut cut into the rock. Both are close the same size and shape. Any ideas?
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Mjm, this subject usually gets some folks riled up because they are hardcore convinced they have an artifact,, been in a gazillion heated discussions… what you have unfortunately is an Omar https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omarolluk

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I could really care less what it is, I would just like to know for sure. I am not sure you would think that it was a Omar if you had it in your hand. I have hauled rocks home that were well over 100 lbs that I knew had nothing to do with Indians, other than one may have seen it. The doughnut was made at a different time than the rock and it is much rougher than the stone. Being rough leads me to belied it was chipped out not rubbed. Thanks for the input.


In the closeup, it looks like it was pecked at by another rock, from the roughness. I believe omars are usually smooth. It might be the start of an atlatl weight.

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Re: Some Stone Artifacts [Re: MJM] #7466053
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Originally Posted by MJM
Here is a handful of better rocks I picked up. I gave them to my wife, and she had the one put on a pin so she can ware it on a chain. The mono fish line was a add to keep them together. That way we can loose them all at once.
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Those beads are really nice. They were hard to make. They were probably made with a tiny, flint tipped bow drill. Your wife is lucky you gave them to her.

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Re: Some Stone Artifacts [Re: KeithC] #7466070
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Originally Posted by JOCO1995
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Cool thread, may have shown these on here before, but here's some NC stuff I have picked up over the years


Nice finds.

Here's some from North Carolina I have. You can often tell where an artifact is from by the style and material. You can see stylistically that some of our points are the same and the material used is the same too.

In some cases, experts can actually tell that one specific person made many found artifacts. They can also follow how a new style spread from group to group.

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Re: Some Stone Artifacts [Re: KeithC] #7466094
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by MnMan
Wow, you guys have found some amazing artifacts. I don't have any tools or points but I did find this stone effigy pipe 68 years ago when I was playing by a creek as a kid.

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I put the stem in it from a piece of hollowed out sumac.


Nice find. Did you ever use it?

Keith


A couple times when I was younger by about 50 years.


I'm just happy to be here! Today I'm as young as I'll ever be and and older than I've ever been before!
Re: Some Stone Artifacts [Re: MJM] #7466112
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That's a nice grooved hammer. I really like the bell pestle. I've never seen one that short. That was likely used for a very long time.

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This rock has a flattened out side on each side. Not sure what the original design was for....but I know what the indian that I sleep with uses it for....garlic crusher! Keeps it next to the rolling pin and pie plates.


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Re: Some Stone Artifacts [Re: KeithC] #7466827
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Originally Posted by KeithC
In the closeup, it looks like it was pecked at by another rock, from the roughness. I believe omars are usually smooth. It might be the start of an atlatl weight. Keith

Pecked is a much better discerption than chipped like I said. I looked up atlatl weighs and I would think this would be on the heavy side and a odd shape for one. But I do agree that the doughnut is pecked out.


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Re: Some Stone Artifacts [Re: KeithC] #7556714
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Stone Gouge.

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It's the only gouge I have. It's hard to see the curvature of the blade end in the pictures. It's pretty cool. I bought it with 34 other hard stone tools today.

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More grooved axes.

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Re: Some Stone Artifacts [Re: KeithC] #7556734
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Keith. How much do the stone groove axes go for?? I found 1 20 years ago. Sitting on top of a beaver (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman). I gave it to the land owner. He didn’t think much of it. I wish so would of kept it. Never found anything since then

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Re: Some Stone Artifacts [Re: KeithC] #7556740
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Those are awesome Keith.

Re: Some Stone Artifacts [Re: KeithC] #7556748
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Originally Posted by stinkypete
Keith. How much do the stone groove axes go for?? I found 1 20 years ago. Sitting on top of a beaver (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman). I gave it to the land owner. He didn’t think much of it. I wish so would of kept it. Never found anything since then


Wayne, on Ebay grooved axes like those mostly sell between $80.00 and $200.00 each. Prettier stone, higher polish, larger size and no damage brings higher prices. I paid a little under $40.00 each on those averaged out.

There should be more artifacts in that same area you found the axe in. Most of the artifacts I've found have been all in small areas, within feet of each other. The Native Americans apparently had a camp right where my back barn was. I've found a total of 60 some tools on 3 sides of my barn.

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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
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This rock has a flattened out side on each side. Not sure what the original design was for....but I know what the indian that I sleep with uses it for....garlic crusher! Keeps it next to the rolling pin and pie plates.


Carl, I think your wife's garlic crusher may be a nutting stone. Here's one for comparison.

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The small pecked out depression was enough to hold an acorn or other nut still, while it was smashed open with a hammer stone.

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Re: Some Stone Artifacts [Re: Flint Hill fur] #7556770
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Originally Posted by Flint Hill fur
Those are awesome Keith.


Thanks.

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Re: Some Stone Artifacts [Re: KeithC] #7556771
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More hoof pestles.

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Re: Some Stone Artifacts [Re: KeithC] #7556775
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Grooved hammers.

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The first hammer pictured has a really nice level of polish. It feels good in the hand.

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Re: Some Stone Artifacts [Re: KeithC] #7556779
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More celts and adzes.

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The names celt and adze are used fairly interchangeably, but technically a celt is more balanced and closer to identical on both sides.

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Re: Some Stone Artifacts [Re: KeithC] #7556781
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Banded slate. A lot of very beautiful gorgets, banner stones, pendants and other ornaments are made from banded slate.

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Someone started working on this piece and then quit.

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