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Apple tree #7576739
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Guys I’ve been trying to put a name on an apple tree that was pretty popular when I was a kid ( 60’s and 70’s ) . Back then a dwarf was a short person, so the trees would have been of standard size. The apple was late to ripen and stayed on the tree way into November. My memory says this was a very sweet yet tart apple with very white meat or pulp .
I have a tree that’s about 15 years old that has not produced enough apples to be taking up space in my orchard. I would very much like to replace it with the tree I’ve been talking about , I just don’t know what it’s called . Any help from you orchard guys would be much appreciated.

P.S. The outside peel of this apple was a deep dark red color.

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Re: Apple tree [Re: Golf ball] #7576749
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Sounds like what we used to call a transparent apple, they make great applesauce.

Re: Apple tree [Re: Golf ball] #7576755
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Northern Spy comes to mind with those qualities.


Re: Apple tree [Re: Giant Sage] #7576762
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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Sounds like what we used to call a transparent apple, they make great applesauce.

Transparent is an early green apple. Could be a northern spy but the extra white flesh doesn't quite add up.


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Re: Apple tree [Re: Golf ball] #7576764
05/04/22 05:57 PM
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Yup, transparent is one of many known as a June apple.


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Re: Apple tree [Re: Golf ball] #7576765
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Check out Rome beauty and see if it fits what you remember.


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Re: Apple tree [Re: Golf ball] #7576766
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Northern Spy’s are a common old time variety here. Ripen late, after frost.

Re: Apple tree [Re: Golf ball] #7576767
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Deep dark red could be Arkansas Black. I believe it's a late apple it is a long keeper. But I'm told it's hard as a brick at picking and only softens with storage.


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Neither the northern spy or the Rome look or are described like the apples I remember.

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Arkansas black is it I believe, thanks Warrior.

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Winesaps or winesap progeny have the sweet tart flavor profile tend to be late but are usually more yellow fleshed.


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Originally Posted by warrior
Deep dark red could be Arkansas Black. I believe it's a late apple it is a long keeper. But I'm told it's hard as a brick at picking and only softens with storage.



My first thought.

Re: Apple tree [Re: beaverpeeler] #7576902
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Sounds like what we used to call a transparent apple, they make great applesauce.

Transparent is an early green apple. Could be a northern spy but the extra white flesh doesn't quite add up.


Yup. The original, TRUE Northern Spy is yellow-fleshed.

Some of the apples they call Northern Spy today are NOT the real McCoy.


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I thought about Arkansas black too but the flesh is not extra white is it?


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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I thought about Arkansas black too but the flesh is not extra white is it?


Never handled one so I don't know. I'm seeming to recall that either it or King David is a winesap progeny so it might be yellow fleshed.


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northern reds , there's another but cant remember, was it wolf river great pie apple

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If NEyotetrapper sees this he might chime in or you can send him a pm. He has a nursery and is very knowledgeable. I just planted a bunch of apple trees from him and am having a couple pear and apple trees grafted by him for next year. The one your looking for kinda sound like the Wolf River he has.

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Or you can look through what they carry here:

https://www.turkeycreektrees.com/apple-trees-for-sale

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Thanks guys , from what I’ve seen the Arkansas Black is what I’m looking for and most of the mail order places are sold out. The good news is my son likes just outside of Bentonville and every one that sells apple trees has them for sale .

Thanks everyone!

Re: Apple tree [Re: Golf ball] #7577366
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Most online nurseries only ship for the fall/winter planting dates when its the best time to plant fruit bare root fruit trees. Local nurseries can easier handle and sell potted trees.


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