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Annoyed with this 6.5 crap #7635157
07/25/22 10:56 PM
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Amite county Mississippi
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Idk what I'm more annoyed with when it comes to the 6.5 craze lately, the constant advertising hailing it as the best thing ever or eveyone and their uncle who has to to go off on a paragraph essay full of lame , trying to be offensive puns,on why the. 260 rem or 6.5x55 are just as good and they can't figure out why eveyone just dosent use that. Like geezzzz I don't even like to mention it when I go into a shop.
Was in the pawn shop last week and was asking the lady at the counter if they could order me in a 6.5 grendel and do a lay away payment . Before I could say Gr... Had some guy snort from the other end of counter snort and start goin off on a rant about why .260 is better. Ends up the guy never own one of either smirk

That then I was at the range shooting my .243 had a guy next to me ask what I was shooting and he started talking about his Creedmore and how good the BC was. I asked him what BC was and how far did he generally shoot guy says he don't shoot past 100yd most of the time and couldn't tell me how BC even made a difference when shooting. Was shooting 3" groups @100yd
Idk I just hope they hurry up and kill it already , getting to the point I can basically predict what's going to be in a comment section or what's going to come out of somones mouth to the point it's not even fun anymore. Had to unfollow a few pages like outdoor life on FB because that's all these ever on it it seems anymore

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Re: Annoyed with this 6.5 crap [Re: Wolfdog91] #7635164
07/25/22 11:07 PM
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There are numerous quarterbacks in the Football Hall of Fame. Nair one of them of the armchair variety.
Same goes with the shooting sports.
Ever hear about worrying about the old man who only has one gun vs the guy who owns a dozen guns?
Pick whatever you want, and work it up to meet your needs. You will become that ole man everyone should worry about.

Re: Annoyed with this 6.5 crap [Re: Wolfdog91] #7635165
07/25/22 11:09 PM
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I have 3 .243s and 1 6mm
I don't need a creed


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Re: Annoyed with this 6.5 crap [Re: Wolfdog91] #7635172
07/25/22 11:23 PM
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I got a 6 mm and a 270 Put the ballistics from a 270 next to a 6.5 and then tell me why I need a 6.5. Short action maybe ? Nah 130 grain pointed soft point federal will “ blow the lungs out “ as far as I can shoot here in Ky lol

Re: Annoyed with this 6.5 crap [Re: Wolfdog91] #7635175
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Here 270 out performs on all categories except recoil
https://www.sportsmans.com/6-5-creedmoor-vs-270-cartridges

Re: Annoyed with this 6.5 crap [Re: Wolfdog91] #7635178
07/25/22 11:29 PM
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Question: How do you know a guy shot a coyote with a 6.5 Creedmore?


Answer: Don't worry he will tell you LOL.


I have a .25-07 and I don't need to back up.


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Re: Annoyed with this 6.5 crap [Re: Wolfdog91] #7635188
07/25/22 11:39 PM
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I have a 6.5 creedmoor. It shoots nice, I put a heart lung shot on an antelope at 185 yards and it went bang-flop. It’s not the be all, end all, but it’s nice. Even after I got the 6.5 I still carried my old .270 more often than not though. Killed many mule deer and white tails with the .270, it has always done everything I asked of it within reason.

Truth is, probably 95% of guys that buy a gun based on things like ballistic coefficient are buying it because they think the capabilities of a certain caliber or gun is gonna make up for their lack of skill and practice.

The only reason even I have a 6.5 is I was in the gun store with my wife and I mentioned to her that I really liked a certain ruger M77 with the laminate stock and brushed stainless barrel that they had in stock. She bought it two days later and gave it to me for Valentine’s Day lol. Otherwise I’d have been happy to keep shooting my old .270


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Re: Annoyed with this 6.5 crap [Re: Wolfdog91] #7635189
07/25/22 11:41 PM
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6.5 c works for me.


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Re: Annoyed with this 6.5 crap [Re: Wolfdog91] #7635208
07/26/22 12:40 AM
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I'm wondering what coefficient has to do with it. A 140 6.5 projectile has the same coefficient no matter what 6.5 it is launched from even the 26 nosler. I built a creedmor that shoots lights out. I like it, it's fun to shoot but I don't hunt with it. Not because it won't do what it supposed to at reasonable ranges I just have other calibers I personally prefer. I believe however that if 6.5 makes you happy or curious go for it. I've never been around a grendal let us know how it does. I am kinda curious about the 6.8 now that you bring this up.


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Re: Annoyed with this 6.5 crap [Re: Wolfdog91] #7635210
07/26/22 12:46 AM
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I run a 6.5 Creedmoor with custom loads and I love the thing to death, I can shoot dimes at 100 yards and probably a 6" group at 600 yards which considering how often I actually go to the range is surprising. I shot my first antelope with a 6.5 Grendel at I think 200 yards and it dropped it on the spot with no issues. We also run a 22 Creedmoor for thermal hunting coyotes and another one for day hunting and they're both good very nice rifles. Also, have shot a 6.5 PRC quite a few times and love that too. To be entirely honest though, I don't care what gun I'm shooting because at the end of the day skill and experience beats out every other factor.

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Re: Annoyed with this 6.5 crap [Re: Wolfdog91] #7635212
07/26/22 01:21 AM
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I have started coyote hunt with a 6.5 creedMoor because that’s all the ammo I can find the last few years. I carry bigger gun coyote hunting because of the wolves where I live.


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Re: Annoyed with this 6.5 crap [Re: Wolfdog91] #7635215
07/26/22 01:37 AM
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A 243 with 115gr bullets is a great 1k yard rifle, I like my 260 I had built before the Creedmoor was thought of. I really like 7mm08, 270, 3006.

At the ranges most people actually shoot sub 300 yards there's not a dimes wort of difference between them to me on deer. Results are all the same hole size fluctuates a little.

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Re: Annoyed with this 6.5 crap [Re: Wolfdog91] #7635221
07/26/22 03:32 AM
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I remember back about 1980 when the 7mm/08 hit the scenes. It was the latest and greatest in the steel shooting scene. It’s still a great cartridge and looses nothing to the creedmore .

Re: Annoyed with this 6.5 crap [Re: Wolfdog91] #7635238
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7mm08 over the creed for me!

Re: Annoyed with this 6.5 crap [Re: Wolfdog91] #7635243
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I have slayed more critters with a 25-06 and 6mm rem. over anything. Personally 25-06 is my favorite caliber and probably always will be. I did pick up a little howa mini action in 6.5 grendel last year. It has been a fun little deer slayer as well. Only issue with it right now is ammo is more expensive than any other caliber I own. Between those three calibers I don’t see the need for me to get a creedmore. I don’t knock those who have them but I don’t think I need one.

Re: Annoyed with this 6.5 crap [Re: Wolfdog91] #7635259
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nothing at all wrong with the 6.5 lineup, they have used the BC line as hype, yes BC is important, but it doesn't really amount to much till the range gets to 600 yards or beyond. however from 700 on out atmospheric conditions can affect the BC, a swing in Bar Pressure can actually change your BC. If your not shooting beyond 500 yards BC isn't that imporrtant.
Now for the 6.5 creed, fine little cartridge, nothing special unless your interested in punching paper and ringing gongs at 1k, too light in the pants in retained energy to take game at more than 500 yards of so, this is my opinion so don't need 40 posts saying somebody took deer, elk, antelope at XXX yards. I have a creed, shoots well, good deer round but is nothing compared to my 6.5 gibbs. I also like the grendel for deer hunting, deer can't seem to tell the difference between them.

Re: Annoyed with this 6.5 crap [Re: turkn8rtrapper] #7635266
07/26/22 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by turkn8rtrapper
I'm wondering what coefficient has to do with it. A 140 6.5 projectile has the same coefficient no matter what 6.5 it is launched from even the 26 nosler. I built a creedmor that shoots lights out. I like it, it's fun to shoot but I don't hunt with it. Not because it won't do what it supposed to at reasonable ranges I just have other calibers I personally prefer. I believe however that if 6.5 makes you happy or curious go for it. I've never been around a grendal let us know how it does. I am kinda curious about the 6.8 now that you bring this up.


Got a Grendel in a little 10.5" AR pistol ( btw anyone know the longest pistol barrel you can put on an AR pistol?). To me the grendel makes perfect sense for the AR and I wish I got half the fame as the Creedmore. I mean seriously. That little sucker will down right just out preform most other cartridges ( excluding wild cats / semi wild cats) on the ar platform without going up to the AR10.

The Creedmore....egh I like it's concept for what I do. But for most guys who shoot 20rd a year and are blasting Bambi @ 100yd over a food plot, I honestly don't think all it's pro will mean diddly.
Now for guys shooting 50+ rounds a session who don't want to get their shoulder beat up, smaller people like my self, people who shoot where a high BC bullet will actually make a difference or what I'm seeing more and more of us peoel who would like similar performance to the .260 or 6.5x55 and simply can't find one off the shelf ( let's be honest who is selling either of those calibers for the same price you can get a 6.5 off the shelf ?) Then yeah makes alot most sense.

And on a side note . Been talking to alot of guys on accurate shooter who do competition and I'll ask them how they feel when someone says " the 6.5 Creedmore was designed for punching paper " lot of them guys just think that's funny. Then again most of them are shooting .284 shehane's and the like that are extremely specalized for that role so there's that's..

Anyway not really for or against the Creedmore just both sides are getting old

Re: Annoyed with this 6.5 crap [Re: Ridge Runner1960] #7635267
07/26/22 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner1960
nothing at all wrong with the 6.5 lineup, they have used the BC line as hype, yes BC is important, but it doesn't really amount to much till the range gets to 600 yards or beyond. however from 700 on out atmospheric conditions can affect the BC, a swing in Bar Pressure can actually change your BC. If your not shooting beyond 500 yards BC isn't that imporrtant.
Now for the 6.5 creed, fine little cartridge, nothing special unless your interested in punching paper and ringing gongs at 1k, too light in the pants in retained energy to take game at more than 500 yards of so, this is my opinion so don't need 40 posts saying somebody took deer, elk, antelope at XXX yards. I have a creed, shoots well, good deer round but is nothing compared to my 6.5 gibbs. I also like the grendel for deer hunting, deer can't seem to tell the difference between them.


Mind talking a little about you 6.5 Gibbs ? Don't think I've heard of that before

Re: Annoyed with this 6.5 crap [Re: Wolfdog91] #7635269
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7mm 08 is my choice with reloads it's a 300yrd gun all day long.


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Re: Annoyed with this 6.5 crap [Re: Wolfdog91] #7635272
07/26/22 06:58 AM
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Hey Wolfdog!

Wanna hear about my 6.5 Creedmore????

$220 in it, rifle AND scope.
Both NEW.

First time shooting it, right in out of box.

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Gun was $179 after $75 rebate and scope was a discontinued Thompson Center 4X ML scope I picked up for $39.
Have since added lighter Win Model 70 trigger spring and decent scope.

Magic round?
Nope, but cheap, accurate beater I use when I don't want to.carry/ travel with something nice.

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