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Re: Most Human Beings are no longer needed [Re: Bob] #7648021
08/11/22 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob
Not advocating for depopulation, but he’s not wrong. Many things we used to rely on people to do are now done by machine. Factory welding? Machines. Washing clothes? Machines.

How many things can you name that machines have replaced at least one worker per job?

Cutting hay, what would have taken 10 people all day we can now do with one person in an hour.
Digging trenches, same.
Thanks to technology we can build a house in half the time with half the people.
Heck, we even have machines that fold pants and t-shirts for clothing companies.
You can now order food on machines, that used to be a persons job.

Fact is, technology is replacing people in the workforce at an alarming rate. And why would companies pay a persons salary and benefits and deal with human error when they could just buy a machine to do it? But on the other hand, my generation and younger aren’t having enough children to replace us, so maybe it’ll work itself out.


Maybe, I guess, sorta, kinda. I work for a big box home improvement store. Spent the day assembling witches and evil clowns from China with 1500 pieces and 2 lines of broken English saying how it all goes together. If you got a machine that can assemble that, send it on over.

From 6am to 10am we run only self serve cash registers. THAT requires THREE human beings to keep the 4 registers open. Only 1 out of 5 customers can go through the self serve lines without assistance. Another 1 out of 5 drop their purchases on the floor and walk out when they realize there is no cashier.

So if you know of a robot that can take those purchases back to the right place, that'd be cool too.


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Re: Most Human Beings are no longer needed [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7648073
08/12/22 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Grandpa Trapper
according to Yuval Noah Harari, PhD, a professor, historian, futurist, and advisor to the World Economic Forum who said “we just don’t need the vast majority of the population in the 21st century given modern technologies rendering human labor economically and militarily redundant.” I wonder if the professor considers himself one of the few that are needed in this world? He also states on his website “history began when humans invented gods and will end when humans become gods.”


Yuval Harari is a scholarly leader in Artificial Intelligence advocacy on the world stage and I have posted about him (and others like him) many times on TMan GT.
But for those whose illumination has been made new, the world stage is very clear. Very.

And that Truth is evident;
First, The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it..
It was the same in the time of the Apostle John and it's no different now.
Harari and people like him are slaves to the father of darkness while some of us follow the Light.

Great revelation helps us know what to do with people like Harari. We may not live in Corinth, but there is no difference in the backdrop scenario, then versus now;
Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? 2 Corinthians 6:14.

Everything seems awfully clear under truthful illumination.

Blessings,
Mark

Re: Most Human Beings are no longer needed [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7648078
08/12/22 06:31 AM
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It is time to encourage people to have fewer children instead of more. No genocide or forced sterilization. Just time to stop seeing large families as a good thing. Maybe change the tax structure so more kids means more tax not less.


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Re: Most Human Beings are no longer needed [Re: danny clifton] #7648083
08/12/22 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
It is time to encourage people to have fewer children instead of more. No genocide or forced sterilization. Just time to stop seeing large families as a good thing. Maybe change the tax structure so more kids means more tax not less.


At a time when we as a nation are just a hair above replacement. You're talking suicide.


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Re: Most Human Beings are no longer needed [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7648084
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I've been working with machines for at least 35 years or more..People have to load and run the machine.People have to maintain and clean the machine.When the machine breaks down for one of a million reasons people have to diagnose and fix the machine.Machines are like babies - you have to do everything for them.They are no more than a tool that still requires people to make them work.

Re: Most Human Beings are no longer needed [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7648086
08/12/22 06:36 AM
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I'll stick with God's instructions. He made all this, so who would know better.
Be fruitful and multiply is at the beginning of the biblical narrative still.
The selfish nature in us cringes at the thought of too many "others"
but still the beginning of wisdom is "fear of the Lord" so me and mine will follow the One through Whom all things are made for Him,
and not some human Harari type.
No can do.

Blessings,
Mark

Re: Most Human Beings are no longer needed [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7648124
08/12/22 07:25 AM
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At a time when we as a nation are just a hair above replacement.


I dont know what that means?????????? Gets more crowded every year. Cities are LOTS bigger than they were even 40 years ago. Harder to find places to hunt. Even if your willing to pay. That pay to hunt thing is only a reality because of population growth. To many hunters and not enough acres. Suicide is what happens when you get to the point you cant feed yourself anymore. Think China in the 80's or India today. Japan has become an importer of rice to feed everyone. What happens when there is no place able to export? We might be a couple hundred years from that but the growth rate needs slowed down.

Government is against slowing population growth because that will collapse Roosevelts ponzi scheme.


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Re: Most Human Beings are no longer needed [Re: danny clifton] #7648132
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
It is time to encourage people to have fewer children instead of more. No genocide or forced sterilization. Just time to stop seeing large families as a good thing. Maybe change the tax structure so more kids means more tax not less.


The USA's economic system is 100% dependent upon a continual increase in the population. If the population growth stops, or even slows drastically, our financial system will completely and utterly collapse on itself.

It's not a good situation to be in, but that's the reality of it.


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Re: Most Human Beings are no longer needed [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7648143
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He is a evil guy that supports a evil agenda. I’m glad more people are exposing these freaks. It’s not hard anymore when the just come out and say what they believe. Last week Bill Gates was talking about reducing the population by 1.5 billion. Stalin and Pol Pot look like kindergarteners.


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Re: Most Human Beings are no longer needed [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7648146
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Look around....... is he lying?

I've heard these type of things before, usually as an argument for a basic human income that Finland was experimenting with.

Re: Most Human Beings are no longer needed [Re: danny clifton] #7648160
08/12/22 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
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At a time when we as a nation are just a hair above replacement.


I dont know what that means?????????? Gets more crowded every year. Cities are LOTS bigger than they were even 40 years ago. Harder to find places to hunt. Even if your willing to pay. That pay to hunt thing is only a reality because of population growth. To many hunters and not enough acres. Suicide is what happens when you get to the point you cant feed yourself anymore. Think China in the 80's or India today. Japan has become an importer of rice to feed everyone. What happens when there is no place able to export? We might be a couple hundred years from that but the growth rate needs slowed down.

Government is against slowing population growth because that will collapse Roosevelts ponzi scheme.


All western nations are currently either in or close a negative birthrate. Nations as in cultural and birth status not immigration. Hence the massive migrations into Europe and the US.

As a culture of freedom and Judea Christian mores we are at risk of extinction if we don't a) reverse the declining birthrate and b) stop the migrations that will overwhelm us.

The crowding you are seeing is a result of two trends.

First, the rural countryside has been depopulating for a long time now to take up jobs in the cities. Just pull up census data on just about any map dot our great grands were from and I'm sure you'll see a steady decline for at least a century now. Unless that map dot was within the orbit of a major city and hot swallowed up in urban sprawl.

And second and most obvious is unfettered mass immigration both legal and illegal. Which naturally falls upon the cities for work and shelter.


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Re: Most Human Beings are no longer needed [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7648167
08/12/22 08:14 AM
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Rural areas are MORE populated not less. Its not just cities.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Most Human Beings are no longer needed [Re: danny clifton] #7648171
08/12/22 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Rural areas are MORE populated not less. Its not just cities.


I'm not talking the one county away rural that is now suburbs, I'm talking the one paved road counties out in the sticks.


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Re: Most Human Beings are no longer needed [Re: patrapperbuster] #7648201
08/12/22 09:20 AM
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very disturbed individual just the others involved with the world economic forum

Correct


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Re: Most Human Beings are no longer needed [Re: Boco] #7648212
08/12/22 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Wipe out all the sh-hole unproductive parasitic countries first.
Then see if that is enough of a cull.

I think they will have the lowest death rate. I feel this has started and will keep gaining speed. I heard more people are dying in Germany too.
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Re: Most Human Beings are no longer needed [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7648218
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The planet has 8 billion people. We need way less people, not more.

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Re: Most Human Beings are no longer needed [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7648221
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IMO the problem is the ones that are overproducing children are the ones that shouldn't have any, and the ones that should have large families aren't.

Danny's idea of more tax is interesting but imo kind of backwards... not more taxes... less benefits! The more kids single mothers pop out the more money they get! In some states, single mothers with 4 kids are getting close to a grand a month in food stamps alone. That is ridiculous! The government needs to stop rewarding bad behavior!


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Re: Most Human Beings are no longer needed [Re: Blaine County] #7648222
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
The planet has 8 billion people. We need way less people, not more.

Thank you,

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The Chineses are doing their part. They started Covid.

Re: Most Human Beings are no longer needed [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7648349
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Re: Most Human Beings are no longer needed [Re: yotetrapper30] #7648359
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by Bob
Not advocating for depopulation, but he’s not wrong. Many things we used to rely on people to do are now done by machine. Factory welding? Machines. Washing clothes? Machines.

How many things can you name that machines have replaced at least one worker per job?

Cutting hay, what would have taken 10 people all day we can now do with one person in an hour.
Digging trenches, same.
Thanks to technology we can build a house in half the time with half the people.
Heck, we even have machines that fold pants and t-shirts for clothing companies.
You can now order food on machines, that used to be a persons job.

Fact is, technology is replacing people in the workforce at an alarming rate. And why would companies pay a persons salary and benefits and deal with human error when they could just buy a machine to do it? But on the other hand, my generation and younger aren’t having enough children to replace us, so maybe it’ll work itself out.


Maybe, I guess, sorta, kinda. I work for a big box home improvement store. Spent the day assembling witches and evil clowns from China with 1500 pieces and 2 lines of broken English saying how it all goes together. If you got a machine that can assemble that, send it on over.

From 6am to 10am we run only self serve cash registers. THAT requires THREE human beings to keep the 4 registers open. Only 1 out of 5 customers can go through the self serve lines without assistance. Another 1 out of 5 drop their purchases on the floor and walk out when they realize there is no cashier.

So if you know of a robot that can take those purchases back to the right place, that'd be cool too.


you might not be the one that is so disposable well until later

but if you went single payer insurance there are 2.86 million insurance workers in the country who make money off of shuffling money and charging for risk and such , if there weren't sales people probably could take that from 2.86 million to 0.86 million and just have the people cutting the checks left


actually when you think about it the marketing people who wouldn't be needed for stupid commercials 1.2 million marketing Jobs , if you didn't market solutions to things that weren't an issue or insurance could easily cut that by 2/3 that is another 800K worth of cuts

577K mental health professionals and without them think of the Millions who would self terminate , what a reduction that would create.


the thing is I bet none of those easily un-necessary people feel they are un-necessary

if you removed 3.5 million people plus just from those areas plus the fall out from that you wouldn't need much for new construction , so those people with the skills to build could be repurposed on other infrastructure.


any time you start down this road it gets slippery very fast and whats odd is that the useless people who usually think this stuff is a good idea never seem to think it is them that is useless.

who is more important in the day to day of a city the Mayor or the garbage man , the mayor can take a 2 week break and no one notices if all the garbage men didn't collect trash for 2 weeks it would be piled everywhere causing health and safety issues.






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