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Putting call lure on bobcat flagging? #7678852
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Has anyone done this? Seems like a great way to disperse scent, getting lots of airflow. Maybe a smudge of skunk essence on a feather above the set?

Re: Putting call lure on bobcat flagging? [Re: Trapper.38] #7678861
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Just don’t hang the flagging directly above your trap, if the lure drops down you don’t want it on your trap bed or it can cause digging

Re: Putting call lure on bobcat flagging? [Re: Trapper.38] #7678891
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Ah ha! Do I detect another cat trapper who has taken to putting a good call lure up high?

I've decides skunky Catmando up at the top of a post or on the flag plus a little castor or Seirra Mist down low never misses a cat for me.


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Re: Putting call lure on bobcat flagging? [Re: Trapper.38] #7679026
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I place lure up high on flaggings I've had good luck, I thought I had a photo of set construction with flagging of sheep wool up high with lure on that and fence post but I guess I've deleted it.

Re: Putting call lure on bobcat flagging? [Re: Trapper.38] #7679052
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I will watch for it, call lure up high works great in both KS and Texas


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Re: Putting call lure on bobcat flagging? [Re: Trapper.38] #7679071
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No good.
You want good smelling call lure near the ground where it will leave a scent trail for the animal to follow to your set.
Put it up high and it goes away on the wind leaving little if any on the ground for the animals to follow.

I wouldnt want a scent lure on flagging-flagging brings in animals from far away,by sight,so they will find your call lure and follow it to the set.
The only exception would be if you use a sight attractor in a cubby for cats to entice a cat to go in.This is not what i would consider "flagging".

Castor wrapped in a hayball,or some cat lure on a flying squirrel or rabbit skin in a cubby will often get the cat into the snare or trap in a walkthru setup.

In winter a big bait will provide it all.


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Re: Putting call lure on bobcat flagging? [Re: Trapper.38] #7679134
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I sometimes wonder if cats behave differently up in your deep freeze . Down here big bait equals big catches of trash. Playing the wind with both flagging and lure works out great here. It's their curiosity not their hunger we play on


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Re: Putting call lure on bobcat flagging? [Re: Trapper.38] #7679135
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Oh, and when I made my cubbies into walk through sets I ended up not noticing any misses or refusals again


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Re: Putting call lure on bobcat flagging? [Re: Trapper.38] #7679140
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All I can say is I gang set with species specific sets at a draw.I dont consider any winter fur here trash.
I am happy even with the weasels-I have a good market for them and they are easy to tan.


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Re: Putting call lure on bobcat flagging? [Re: Leftlane] #7679159
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
Oh, and when I made my cubbies into walk through sets I ended up not noticing any misses or refusals again

Amen add two traps and it's pay dirt


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Most thought provoking thread I've read in a long time, guys! Thanks!

Re: Putting call lure on bobcat flagging? [Re: Trapper.38] #7679241
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Sent molecules fall to the ground as they travel through the air well because they are heavier than air. This is why call lure up high works better than down low and more so in colder climates. Also if the wind is shifting through the time frame between checks this creates multiple sent trails to your set or in sight to your flagging.


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I dont want a weak scent scattered around,I want a strong defined scent trail deposited on the ground by the air current close to the ground.The scent trail lasts much longer this way if you are depending on scent lure alone to direct an animal(cat,canine) to your set from the flag.
For marten,lure goes near the base of the tree where the baited box is set.And a smear of bait on the base of the tree. The box is filled with freeze resistant bait(stronger smell in deep cold) like beaver meat.
Those applications produce the best results by far in the boreal.

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Re: Putting call lure on bobcat flagging? [Re: Trapper.38] #7679361
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Bandy, that makes sense. Boco you make good points and I would wonder if the severe cold (or our lack of it) doesn't affect cats behavior significantly and maybe more than most species.

I can tell you when the big toms start roaming, they seem to have ADHD. They will work all kinds of sets but when there is enough snow to track them, it is obvious they occasionally don't work a set long enough to actually step on the pan. The money (,to me anyway) is so many reasons to step on a pan that they can start after one attractive thing (call lure, flagging, etc) and then if they get distracted hopefully it is by another something I have put in place.

Because of thoughts and experiences like that, I give them a full gamete of attractant and manage to take a few. The initial location is also what I hope to be a narrow travel way with some sort of choke point.


Pests Dad I agree. I am going to be following this thread for a long time. I along with most guys, have caught cats in nearly every kind of set I've ever made so it is interesting to see how others chose what will be their go to for cats. Boco gang setting a good area makes sense if you subscribe to my ADHD thoughts.


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Re: Putting call lure on bobcat flagging? [Re: Trapper.38] #7679370
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I am ,,,,make a couple sets guy ,,, because iny experience cats from year to year use the same crossings I have use flagging and not ,,, but a call lure up high I do, and I might use the same call at the trap like skunk.
Or use 1 or2 different ones at the trap that has worked for me for years


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Red MT you're a thinking man and I always appreciate your take on topics like this. Most ppl think I am nutty but a few guys like Kmiller helped me get where I am now.

I have taken to carrying a few broken posts with me when I trap cats so I can plant one at a good choke point of intersection. I flag and lure up high, use a good smear of castor or castor based lure right above my trap which is tight to my post. Here is me trying to think like a cat:

If a northbound cat wants to run his face and shoulders above my exposed pan that is boxed in heavily I should get him right then and there. If not, I imagine him wanting to rub the other side of his face so he turns around and has to take another step over my pan. Even if he still isn't caught, I picture him headed south and being south of my set. If he is indeed headed north then he has to turn around and pass over my pan (if I have other avenues fenced off properly) which gives me a 3rd chance at him.

That is why I don't think that set misses cats. Do you think my logic is halfway sound or am I all wet?

Anyone please chime in, I have broad shoulders LOL


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I'm not a cat expert but the only thing that has put cats in the trap consistently for me is putting the trap were the cat is going to step anyway ( blind set). If u want to add some lure or eye appeal there great but I just can't catch cats if I expect to attract them TO the set. Also if u ever get a chance to listen to Mercer Lawing talk cats, set up and pay attention and consider yourself blessed. That about everything I know about cats other than the cover that rabbits like is the same cover cats like...

Re: Putting call lure on bobcat flagging? [Re: Trapper.38] #7679502
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I can see the wisdom in your simplistic approach. To put a pan where the cat should step anyways is smart.

Remember Big Shane? As many coyotes as he could take (his best day I remember was like 17) I always caught more cats and we trapped a lot of adjacent pastures. I am convinced that guys like you and him are better trappers than I'd ever be but cats are an odd ball species when it comes to behavior. No other way to explain it.


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Re: Putting call lure on bobcat flagging? [Re: Trapper.38] #7679504
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Maybe I'm odd because their odd behavior keeps me interested. Next time I see barn cats Ima follow them and see if they face the same direction when they poop LOL


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The call lure is to get the cat in visual distance of the flaging which is VHS ribbon then my set probably a cubby has feathers on and around it. I want something catching the cats attention every time it finds something so it keeps it moving in the direction of my set.


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