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Re: Rough for Europe [Re: Wolfdog91] #7696029
10/19/22 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by spjones
My guess is that if you lived in northern climate, with winter and a historic energy crisis looming

A real fur blanket would be high on your must have list




Again how much better would a fur blanket that I'm guessing youd have to get custom made now days, be compared to some heavy whool ones ?
Just looking around in google most blankets made in Russian in the 1800's where made of course whool and cotton. And from someone who's sleep in milspec whool blanket for a good many many nights I have to say their really really nice. So fur would really have to do alot more to make the price point even out


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Re: Rough for Europe [Re: Wolfdog91] #7696031
10/19/22 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Catch I never said he didn't, but that's why I said what I said. Promoting fur which is a luxury item ina time of high inflation where people are legit stealing to feed them selves probably won't do much at all and I gave my reasons why


These people do not buy luxury fur, they buy utilitarian fur garments, often lower end coon, etc
Not about fashion, it's about not freezing to death.

Re: Rough for Europe [Re: Wolfdog91] #7696033
10/19/22 06:39 PM
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None of you guys get it.
When it is 25 below and you have no heat in your house you wont get a good sleep in a dickey jacket.But you surely will with a fur robe.
I use spring bear robes at the trapping cabins,I dont get up in the night to stoke the fire at 30 below,I just light a fire when I get up in the morning.
I dont know when the fire goes out,I am toasty warm in the bunk long after the fire has gone out and the cabin gets cold.
When things get bad in cold climates like russia and europe,people will kill for fur.

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Re: Rough for Europe [Re: Wolfdog91] #7696034
10/19/22 06:40 PM
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Wolf I would say your lady friend would much prefer a fur blanket on her soft skin than sleeping on wool milspec. Considering I like my wife's skin against mine more than her pajamas that's one highly motivational reason.

Re: Rough for Europe [Re: Boco] #7696035
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Originally Posted by Boco
None of you guys get it.
When it is 25 below and you have no heat in your house you wont get a good sleep in a dickey jacket.But you surely will with a fur robe.
I use spring bear robes at the trapping cabins,I dont get up in the night to stoke the fire at 30 below,I just light a fire when I get up in the morning.
I dont know when the fire goes out,I am toasty warm in the bunk long after the fire has gone out and the cabin gets cold.
When things get bad in cold climates like russia and europe,people will kill for fur.



We don't get it for a couple reasons. One it's so expensive we have never bought any and so never experienced how it's better. And it doesn't get 30 below here ever. Maybe -7 to -10 a night or two and not but every couple of years. I don't remember the last time it got below zero

Re: Rough for Europe [Re: Wolfdog91] #7696042
10/19/22 06:55 PM
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Heavy wool duffle is warm.It is also expensive compared to fur.It sells for $80 to $100 a sq mtr.It makes a good liner for a fur robe.We use wool duffle for lining in fur mitts.


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Re: Rough for Europe [Re: Wolfdog91] #7696043
10/19/22 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Catch I never said he didn't, but that's why I said what I said. Promoting fur which is a luxury item ina time of high inflation where people are legit stealing to feed them selves probably won't do much at all and I gave my reasons why

You are the one who mentioned things like amazon, luxury, put it in a box. Go back hundreds of years and fur kept people warm. They did it themselves, or payed for the hides. He mentioned nothing of cost, just promotion.


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Re: Rough for Europe [Re: Providence Farm] #7696044
10/19/22 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by Boco
None of you guys get it.
When it is 25 below and you have no heat in your house you wont get a good sleep in a dickey jacket.But you surely will with a fur robe.
I use spring bear robes at the trapping cabins,I dont get up in the night to stoke the fire at 30 below,I just light a fire when I get up in the morning.
I dont know when the fire goes out,I am toasty warm in the bunk long after the fire has gone out and the cabin gets cold.
When things get bad in cold climates like russia and europe,people will kill for fur.



We don't get it for a couple reasons. One it's so expensive we have never bought any and so never experienced how it's better. And it doesn't get 30 below here ever. Maybe -7 to -10 a night or two and not but every couple of years. I don't remember the last time it got below zero



LOL I remember wind chill @ 50 below a few times.
I do believe the fasion industry hurt the fur business more than we realize.
It was used totally different years ago.
Now it's a very high priced item that most people will never buy.


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Re: Rough for Europe [Re: Providence Farm] #7696045
10/19/22 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by Boco
None of you guys get it.
When it is 25 below and you have no heat in your house you wont get a good sleep in a dickey jacket.But you surely will with a fur robe.
I use spring bear robes at the trapping cabins,I dont get up in the night to stoke the fire at 30 below,I just light a fire when I get up in the morning.
I dont know when the fire goes out,I am toasty warm in the bunk long after the fire has gone out and the cabin gets cold.
When things get bad in cold climates like russia and europe,people will kill for fur.



We don't get it for a couple reasons. One it's so expensive we have never bought any and so never experienced how it's better. And it doesn't get 30 below here ever. Maybe -7 to -10 a night or two and not but every couple of years. I don't remember the last time it got below zero


People where you are wore leather.Northern peoples wear leather with the hair still on it.
I sell a lot of my fur to people who still make fur articles to use in winter.
Anyone who has worn fur in a cold climate knows why fur is worn.

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Re: Rough for Europe [Re: Catch22] #7696046
10/19/22 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Catch22
Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Catch I never said he didn't, but that's why I said what I said. Promoting fur which is a luxury item ina time of high inflation where people are legit stealing to feed them selves probably won't do much at all and I gave my reasons why

You are the one who mentioned things like amazon, luxury, put it in a box. Go back hundreds of years and fur kept people warm. They did it themselves, or payed for the hides. He mentioned nothing of cost, just promotion.

What exactly are you getting at ? Yes he mentioned promotion and how it would seem to be a lost opportunity. I'm simply explaining how I dont think it would really do any good right now and why.


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Re: Rough for Europe [Re: Wolfdog91] #7696049
10/19/22 06:59 PM
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The gal in the video, and much of her generation won’t be out cutting wood/working

They will laying around there apartment/flat/house without power/gas/water waiting for the problem too get solved

A nice fluffy warm fur blanket would be very appealing too such folks

Re: Rough for Europe [Re: Wolfdog91] #7696057
10/19/22 07:06 PM
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We have expected what is coming to the eu for a while....be prepared to see it here also. At this point there is no avoiding what is coming.....time to face that fact, accept it and then move onto productive options. There is no 'hope'....which is something I have said for a while now...


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Re: Rough for Europe [Re: Wolfdog91] #7696058
10/19/22 07:07 PM
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Wondering how many days this winter Amite County Mississippi is below zero, or -10 below zero? Fur may luxury type thing in warmer climates but hard to beat when the ice on the lake is 3 foot thick, and snow is 3 foot deep.


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Re: Rough for Europe [Re: Feedinggrounds] #7696060
10/19/22 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Feedinggrounds
Wondering how many days this winter Amite County Mississippi is below zero, or -10 below zero? Fur may luxury type thing in warmer climates but hard to beat when the ice on the lake is 3 foot thick, and snow is 3 foot deep.


How many folk in the UP are walking around with fur clothing?


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Re: Rough for Europe [Re: Wolfdog91] #7696064
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There would be a huge boom in the fur industry, if most people just owned a simple fur hat or two made out raccoon, muskrat or fox.

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Re: Rough for Europe [Re: Wolfdog91] #7696066
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Originally Posted by Feedinggrounds
Wondering how many days this winter Amite County Mississippi is below zero, or -10 below zero? Fur may luxury type thing in warmer climates but hard to beat when the ice on the lake is 3 foot thick, and snow is 3 foot deep.


How many folk in the UP are walking around with fur clothing?

I love my beaver vest, I pulled it out for another winter. I see quite a few coyote trapper hats, plenty of beaver mitts holding jigging rods ice fishing, I have 2 pair my wife has one pair. Tanneries have been many months behind for a while now. Our skilled fur garment makers are also quite busy, if not backed up. Warm climate= less need for fur, Cold climate= more need for fur.

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I expect the meat from many of those furbearers will be of more value than the fur in short time even in cold climates. I suspect if you're starving to death you want stay warm no matter what you wear.

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Lots of people to eat in Europe and other places.
Kill him,cook him and take his fur

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Re: Rough for Europe [Re: Wolfdog91] #7696071
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Originally Posted by Feedinggrounds
Wondering how many days this winter Amite County Mississippi is below zero, or -10 below zero? Fur may luxury type thing in warmer climates but hard to beat when the ice on the lake is 3 foot thick, and snow is 3 foot deep.


How many folk in the UP are walking around with fur clothing?



Good point Wolfdog !
Seems like I said fashion has done more to destroy the fur industry than many realize.
If fur was checper , it would be used more , but the fasion industry keeps it a luxury item , and so it's not used as it should be.
BOCO makes that point very well.


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Originally Posted by Boco
Lots of people to eat.

Lol!

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