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ELECTRIC CARS #7696383
10/20/22 07:35 AM
10/20/22 07:35 AM
Joined: Jun 2012
KY.usa
rex123 Offline OP
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Saw on the news where tow drivers are refusing to tow them in Florida after the storm because of the salt water they have been in causes the batteries to burst into flames. fire departments say it takes about 10 times as much water to put them out about 3 times as long. Also after they are out they can reignite on their own.

Last edited by rex123; 10/20/22 07:36 AM.
Re: ELECTRIC CARS [Re: rex123] #7696393
10/20/22 08:05 AM
10/20/22 08:05 AM
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I read they burn hot. Always in the back of my mind when thinking about wrecks like that last one I stoped for where I had to use pry bars to get the door open to get to the driver.and cut his seat belt. He was unresponsive and I didn't have a c collar or board to put him on so left him in the vehicle. But when ems got there thay could go right to work on him and not have to weight for the fire department to get the door open. His wife was responsive and could move. Any fire would be bad but I could most likely put a standard fire out with a single extinguisher . I don't think that will help much with a battery fire.

Re: ELECTRIC CARS [Re: rex123] #7696408
10/20/22 08:48 AM
10/20/22 08:48 AM
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I don't know that electric cars are any more likely to catch fire than an internal combustion engine car. In fact, I can see how they might be LESS likely to catch fire. But... when an electric car catches fire it is a big danged deal.

Now can you imagine an electric car on fire in a parking garage full of about 300 other cars - assuming it doesn't spread to an upper or lower floor. Yeesh! Sounds like a firefighter's nightmare. And what if it is an underground parking garage? I hope they have a good functioning sprinkler system.


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Re: ELECTRIC CARS [Re: Kart29] #7696422
10/20/22 09:13 AM
10/20/22 09:13 AM
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New York border
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Originally Posted by Kart29
I don't know that electric cars are any more likely to catch fire than an internal combustion engine car. In fact, I can see how they might be LESS likely to catch fire. But... when an electric car catches fire it is a big danged deal.

Now can you imagine an electric car on fire in a parking garage full of about 300 other cars - assuming it doesn't spread to an upper or lower floor. Yeesh! Sounds like a firefighter's nightmare. And what if it is an underground parking garage? I hope they have a good functioning sprinkler system.

Personally , I think they should ban electric cars from parking garages. If one catches fire in a garage the resulting heat will cause so much structural damage , you will need to demolish and rebuild the garage.


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Re: ELECTRIC CARS [Re: Kart29] #7696427
10/20/22 09:19 AM
10/20/22 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Kart29
I don't know that electric cars are any more likely to catch fire than an internal combustion engine car. In fact, I can see how they might be LESS likely to catch fire.



You skip school the day they explained the whole "don't submerge an electrical item" thing? As far as the parking garages and cars not flood damaged, that might be a different story. The fact that they burn so hot as to cause significant structural damage will likely be addressed with higher insurance premiums.


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Re: ELECTRIC CARS [Re: rex123] #7696446
10/20/22 09:42 AM
10/20/22 09:42 AM
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any damage to the lithium battery starts a self fueling fire and it burns cell after cell producing some serious poison gasses.

if you take a lithium cell and hit it with a hammer it goes off like a firework.

this is why you have to label any package with lithium batteries different

I went to return a cell phone to the fed ex at office depot and they would not take it they said they can not check the phone to make sure the battery won't start on fire I am not sure there is such a thing , but basically their insurance company says no potentially damaged lI-on batteries in their building

Li-on batteries with damage and water also burn and you don't really know when

so a tow company can say the same that we do not tow potentially damaged Li-on batteries on our trucks OR offer a service at extra cost that places the car on a car hauler trailer that they can quickly disconnect to keep from burning up their very expensive trucks that have their drivers in them.

they may also have to have a special storage area for the cars that could burst into flames at any time on concrete or gavel and 25 feet apart to not set off a field of the cars in a fire.

tow driver is already at or near the top of most dangerous jobs even more dangerous than cops in most cases , they are on the road all the time and so easy to get hit.



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Re: ELECTRIC CARS [Re: rex123] #7696490
10/20/22 11:12 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80qsbhU66HQ

Good video on electric cars and Calif.

Babylon Bee video so its meant as humor.

Re: ELECTRIC CARS [Re: rex123] #7696568
10/20/22 01:12 PM
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Re: ELECTRIC CARS [Re: rex123] #7696573
10/20/22 01:17 PM
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All the gas those cars saved will be used to generate electricity to charge them. What a waste.


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Re: ELECTRIC CARS [Re: rex123] #7696581
10/20/22 01:28 PM
10/20/22 01:28 PM
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I guess that the battery for an electric car weighs 1000# and takes 500,000# of materials to make 1 battery. The equipment used for the mining of the minerals required are diesel powered or electric and that also requires generating electric either coal fired or petroleum.

I read one of the companies receiving money for batteries is a company that reclaims old batteries. This whole battery, electric car thing is a scam on the American people.

No matter how this administration spins it in the end it takes either coal, oil or natural gas to power batteries. Can’t be done by wind, solar or BS!


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Re: ELECTRIC CARS [Re: rex123] #7696667
10/20/22 03:51 PM
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The entire windmill, solar panel, electric car revolution is a crooked scheme based upon fantasy, fiction, and shifted power generation. The results are subsidies, kickbacks, laundered money, dumber liberals, and more frustrated and angry conservatives.


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Re: ELECTRIC CARS [Re: Willy Firewood] #7696698
10/20/22 04:20 PM
10/20/22 04:20 PM
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Tennessee
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Originally Posted by Willy Firewood
The entire windmill, solar panel, electric car revolution is a crooked scheme based upon fantasy, fiction, and shifted power generation. The results are subsidies, kickbacks, laundered money, dumber liberals, and more frustrated and angry conservatives.


That, Willy sums the issue up quite nicely.


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Re: ELECTRIC CARS [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7696700
10/20/22 04:25 PM
10/20/22 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
any damage to the lithium battery starts a self fueling fire and it burns cell after cell producing some serious poison gasses.

if you take a lithium cell and hit it with a hammer it goes off like a firework.

this is why you have to label any package with lithium batteries different

I went to return a cell phone to the fed ex at office depot and they would not take it they said they can not check the phone to make sure the battery won't start on fire I am not sure there is such a thing , but basically their insurance company says no potentially damaged lI-on batteries in their building

Li-on batteries with damage and water also burn and you don't really know when

so a tow company can say the same that we do not tow potentially damaged Li-on batteries on our trucks OR offer a service at extra cost that places the car on a car hauler trailer that they can quickly disconnect to keep from burning up their very expensive trucks that have their drivers in them.

they may also have to have a special storage area for the cars that could burst into flames at any time on concrete or gavel and 25 feet apart to not set off a field of the cars in a fire.

tow driver is already at or near the top of most dangerous jobs even more dangerous than cops in most cases , they are on the road all the time and so easy to get hit.



Sheesh! Now you're making me rethink why I bought my lithium battery -powered ice auger.


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Re: ELECTRIC CARS [Re: Willy Firewood] #7696701
10/20/22 04:26 PM
10/20/22 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Willy Firewood
The entire windmill, solar panel, electric car revolution is a crooked scheme based upon fantasy, fiction, and shifted power generation. The results are subsidies, kickbacks, laundered money, dumber liberals, and more frustrated and angry conservatives.


All promoted by a proven liar from birth!


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