Re: Human aspect
[Re: Wild_WI]
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10/23/22 03:02 PM
10/23/22 03:02 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,958 West Virginia,age 49
cathryn
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bvr-takr-upr
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,958
West Virginia,age 49
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We routinely turn loose possums and small raccoons...also rubbed foxes..and even some rubbed coyotes that were 100 plus miles away from home.
I know some of you will holler about that but it's a fact.
If it was a paying job or near the farm,they are dispatched,regardless.
Trappers aren't heartless individuals ..I actually think most trappers are a little more soft hearted and sentimental than most people know.
IF IDIOTS GREW ON TREES THIS PLACE WOULD BE AN ORCHARD !
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Re: Human aspect
[Re: Wild_WI]
#7698704
10/23/22 03:45 PM
10/23/22 03:45 PM
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Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,710 Michigan
Michigander
trapper
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trapper
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Posts: 1,710
Michigan
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I let stuff go all the time. Anything not worth my time dealing with like dink coons or badly rubbed animals gets let go if the conditions allow for it.
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Re: Human aspect
[Re: Giant Sage]
#7698749
10/23/22 04:40 PM
10/23/22 04:40 PM
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Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,671 Ohio
Willy Firewood
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trapper
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Posts: 2,671
Ohio
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If I ain't skinning, being paid or some sort of management it gets turned loose. Agreed, same here.
FRAC LIVES MATTER
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Re: Human aspect
[Re: Wild_WI]
#7698912
10/23/22 07:56 PM
10/23/22 07:56 PM
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Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 3,710 Eau Claire Wi
Trap Setter
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trapper
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Posts: 3,710
Eau Claire Wi
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Yeah really depends on the situation, but I look at trapping like fishing in a way. I don't throw back legal fish too often unless they are a true trophy or don't taste good. Same with trapping if I can't eat it or sell it , or it's a one of a kind deal it might get a pass. I feel hooking a fish just to let them go so someone else can hook the same one seems mean. So does trapping for no reason. If I am actively trying to provide for myself or someone else then it is a part of the natural order of things. If I am just interfering with another living things life for fun I should just stay home and watch TV.
Life sure is tough when you don't learn from the mistakes of others.
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Re: Human aspect
[Re: Wild_WI]
#7698921
10/23/22 08:03 PM
10/23/22 08:03 PM
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Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 15,118 Green County Wisconsin
GREENCOUNTYPETE
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trapper
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 15,118
Green County Wisconsin
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I have never let a possum go , but I trap farms and if the old man at one found out I was letting possums go I would be done
he lost a horse years ago to what the vet told him was possum or raccoon feces in the hay that made his horse sick.
they also have a LOT of free ranged chickens
so there is no mercy on either at that farm doesn't matter size or age
Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 10/23/22 08:04 PM.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Human aspect
[Re: Wild_WI]
#7699016
10/23/22 09:45 PM
10/23/22 09:45 PM
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Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 16,686 OH
Catch22
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trapper
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Posts: 16,686
OH
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Not a moral debate, just wondering if you ever come up to a trap and say we'll I'm just going to release this one. Whether it's small, non target or what not. I ask because I'm averse to Killin possums, eat a lot of bugs is my reasoning but some folks just want everything you catch dead. Also don't kill stray cats, or any yearlings of any species I like to give them a fighting chance because trapping is like the ultimate chess game for me and I only want to beat the skilled players I see more and more post like this and I see my comments getting less popular, I'm ok with that as far as myself goes, worried though for trapping and hunting. I believe that it's been proven time and time again that possums don't consume a ton of ticks and bugs as you say. It's all propaganda IMO. Possums are in the top three of ground nest raiders, ie turkey. I feel like most of these kind of post are from people that are doing data mining. If you are in touch and care about huntable, trappable #'s for the future then you wouldn't have a problem with managing predators which include grinners.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: Human aspect
[Re: Catch22]
#7699061
10/23/22 10:25 PM
10/23/22 10:25 PM
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Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 988 WISCONSIN
Wild_WI
OP
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OP
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Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 988
WISCONSIN
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Not a moral debate, just wondering if you ever come up to a trap and say we'll I'm just going to release this one. Whether it's small, non target or what not. I ask because I'm averse to Killin possums, eat a lot of bugs is my reasoning but some folks just want everything you catch dead. Also don't kill stray cats, or any yearlings of any species I like to give them a fighting chance because trapping is like the ultimate chess game for me and I only want to beat the skilled players I see more and more post like this and I see my comments getting less popular, I'm ok with that as far as myself goes, worried though for trapping and hunting. I believe that it's been proven time and time again that possums don't consume a ton of ticks and bugs as you say. It's all propaganda IMO. Possums are in the top three of ground nest raiders, ie turkey. I feel like most of these kind of post are from people that are doing data mining. If you are in touch and care about huntable, trappable #'s for the future then you wouldn't have a problem with managing predators which include grinners. I'm just going oh hearsay thought they ate more bugs wasn't meant as a dig at anyone
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Re: Human aspect
[Re: Wild_WI]
#7699173
10/24/22 02:16 AM
10/24/22 02:16 AM
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Joined: Dec 2021
Posts: 986 Louisiana
MattLA
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trapper
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Posts: 986
Louisiana
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Well whats not fiction is how important possums are to the ecosystem. They are one of the only mammals naturally immune to snake venom, and they eat so many snakes, mice and moles. In my opinion, unless you are in a fenced game preserve I wouldnt worry about animals eating eachother management wise. There are bigger tracts of land than 99.9% of people will ever see that are just hunted for deer & turkey across the USA with no problems number wise.
There is something called natural ecological thresh hold, that every piece of land in the world can be measured. In simple terms its how many animals, insects, plants, trees, etc can any piece of land support naturally? Once you have a good idea of that number, then you can understand how something so simple like cutting your grass for instance severely diminishes that capacity. Oh, you want to plant non native plants to attract animals to a certain spot? Yeah you can kill the possums off that land and see an increase in turkeys next year, but you are just making it harder on yourself in the future. Manage the animals as you see fit, but atleast try to have some method about it to help propogate the entire piece of land for the future.
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