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Human aspect #7698672
10/23/22 01:56 PM
10/23/22 01:56 PM
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Not a moral debate, just wondering if you ever come up to a trap and say we'll I'm just going to release this one. Whether it's small, non target or what not. I ask because I'm averse to Killin possums, eat a lot of bugs is my reasoning but some folks just want everything you catch dead. Also don't kill stray cats, or any yearlings of any species I like to give them a fighting chance because trapping is like the ultimate chess game for me and I only want to beat the skilled players

Re: Human aspect [Re: Wild_WI] #7698675
10/23/22 01:59 PM
10/23/22 01:59 PM
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Georgia
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Nope, the thought never crossed my mind. If it's in my trap it's gonna get thumped.

I particularly like doing away with non native invasives.

Re: Human aspect [Re: Wild_WI] #7698678
10/23/22 02:02 PM
10/23/22 02:02 PM
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We routinely turn loose possums and small raccoons...also rubbed foxes..and even some rubbed coyotes that were 100 plus miles away from home.

I know some of you will holler about that but it's a fact.

If it was a paying job or near the farm,they are dispatched,regardless.

Trappers aren't heartless individuals ..I actually think most trappers are a little more soft hearted and sentimental than most people know.


IF IDIOTS GREW ON TREES THIS PLACE WOULD BE AN ORCHARD !

Re: Human aspect [Re: Wild_WI] #7698694
10/23/22 02:21 PM
10/23/22 02:21 PM
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Georgia
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I'm paid to trap. Were I after fur I would be very selective since so little southern fur grades high.

Re: Human aspect [Re: Wild_WI] #7698700
10/23/22 02:36 PM
10/23/22 02:36 PM
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I've never kept a red fox. I can only remember letting two other furbearers go. I released one small, bluish silver colored opossum, which is the only one I've ever seen like that. It was beautiful. It was colored like a silver fox, without any of the darkness. I also released a probably 5 pound raccoon, that looked like a midget, rather than a young one.

Keith

Re: Human aspect [Re: Wild_WI] #7698704
10/23/22 02:45 PM
10/23/22 02:45 PM
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I let stuff go all the time. Anything not worth my time dealing with like dink coons or badly rubbed animals gets let go if the conditions allow for it.


Re: Human aspect [Re: Wild_WI] #7698706
10/23/22 02:46 PM
10/23/22 02:46 PM
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I've let a few possums go when little kids didn't want me to bring em home.

Re: Human aspect [Re: Wild_WI] #7698730
10/23/22 03:17 PM
10/23/22 03:17 PM
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Swords Creek, VA
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Iíve released some small fox and raccoons, but all opossum are dealt with. Eric

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Re: Human aspect [Re: Wild_WI] #7698745
10/23/22 03:33 PM
10/23/22 03:33 PM
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If I ain't skinning, being paid or some sort of management it gets turned loose.

Re: Human aspect [Re: Giant Sage] #7698749
10/23/22 03:40 PM
10/23/22 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
If I ain't skinning, being paid or some sort of management it gets turned loose.


Agreed, same here.


FRAC LIVES MATTER
Re: Human aspect [Re: Wild_WI] #7698912
10/23/22 06:56 PM
10/23/22 06:56 PM
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Eau Claire Wi
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Yeah really depends on the situation, but I look at trapping like fishing in a way. I don't throw back legal fish too often unless they are a true trophy or don't taste good. Same with trapping if I can't eat it or sell it , or it's a one of a kind deal it might get a pass. I feel hooking a fish just to let them go so someone else can hook the same one seems mean. So does trapping for no reason. If I am actively trying to provide for myself or someone else then it is a part of the natural order of things. If I am just interfering with another living things life for fun I should just stay home and watch TV.


Life sure is tough when you don't learn from the mistakes of others.
Re: Human aspect [Re: Wild_WI] #7698921
10/23/22 07:03 PM
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I have never let a possum go , but I trap farms and if the old man at one found out I was letting possums go I would be done

he lost a horse years ago to what the vet told him was possum or raccoon feces in the hay that made his horse sick.

they also have a LOT of free ranged chickens

so there is no mercy on either at that farm doesn't matter size or age

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Re: Human aspect [Re: Wild_WI] #7698937
10/23/22 07:11 PM
10/23/22 07:11 PM
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Used to release small possums mostly.

Re: Human aspect [Re: Wild_WI] #7698985
10/23/22 08:11 PM
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Only thing Iíve released is a couple Red Fox, yes it cost me money, but we donít have many and dispatch is at my discretion. Everything else no matter how big or small gets counted.

Re: Human aspect [Re: Wild_WI] #7699016
10/23/22 08:45 PM
10/23/22 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild_WI
Not a moral debate, just wondering if you ever come up to a trap and say we'll I'm just going to release this one. Whether it's small, non target or what not. I ask because I'm averse to Killin possums, eat a lot of bugs is my reasoning but some folks just want everything you catch dead. Also don't kill stray cats, or any yearlings of any species I like to give them a fighting chance because trapping is like the ultimate chess game for me and I only want to beat the skilled players

I see more and more post like this and I see my comments getting less popular, I'm ok with that as far as myself goes, worried though for trapping and hunting. I believe that it's been proven time and time again that possums don't consume a ton of ticks and bugs as you say.

It's all propaganda IMO. Possums are in the top three of ground nest raiders, ie turkey. I feel like most of these kind of post are from people that are doing data mining. If you are in touch and care about huntable, trappable #'s for the future then you wouldn't have a problem with managing predators which include grinners.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Human aspect [Re: Wild_WI] #7699021
10/23/22 08:52 PM
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If you like possums donít ever trap during the Spring. One can equate to 12 or more. We donít ďcountĒ those, in fact we just call them pinkyís. They all join their mothers. And yeah, the myth has been debunked about possums and ticks. The nest they raid would eat more insects than any possum ever could.

Re: Human aspect [Re: Catch22] #7699061
10/23/22 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Catch22
Originally Posted by Wild_WI
Not a moral debate, just wondering if you ever come up to a trap and say we'll I'm just going to release this one. Whether it's small, non target or what not. I ask because I'm averse to Killin possums, eat a lot of bugs is my reasoning but some folks just want everything you catch dead. Also don't kill stray cats, or any yearlings of any species I like to give them a fighting chance because trapping is like the ultimate chess game for me and I only want to beat the skilled players

I see more and more post like this and I see my comments getting less popular, I'm ok with that as far as myself goes, worried though for trapping and hunting. I believe that it's been proven time and time again that possums don't consume a ton of ticks and bugs as you say.

It's all propaganda IMO. Possums are in the top three of ground nest raiders, ie turkey. I feel like most of these kind of post are from people that are doing data mining. If you are in touch and care about huntable, trappable #'s for the future then you wouldn't have a problem with managing predators which include grinners.

I'm just going oh hearsay thought they ate more bugs wasn't meant as a dig at anyone

Re: Human aspect [Re: Wild_WI] #7699173
10/24/22 01:16 AM
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Well whats not fiction is how important possums are to the ecosystem. They are one of the only mammals naturally immune to snake venom, and they eat so many snakes, mice and moles. In my opinion, unless you are in a fenced game preserve I wouldnt worry about animals eating eachother management wise. There are bigger tracts of land than 99.9% of people will ever see that are just hunted for deer & turkey across the USA with no problems number wise.

There is something called natural ecological thresh hold, that every piece of land in the world can be measured. In simple terms its how many animals, insects, plants, trees, etc can any piece of land support naturally? Once you have a good idea of that number, then you can understand how something so simple like cutting your grass for instance severely diminishes that capacity. Oh, you want to plant non native plants to attract animals to a certain spot? Yeah you can kill the possums off that land and see an increase in turkeys next year, but you are just making it harder on yourself in the future. Manage the animals as you see fit, but atleast try to have some method about it to help propogate the entire piece of land for the future.

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