Re: Deer bullets
[Re: warrior]
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10/25/22 05:00 AM
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John C
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Any cup and core bullet like core loks or ballistic tips should work fine on deer when not pushed too fast. These bullets are designed to work in the 2900-2000 fps neighborhood. Go over 2900 fps and they can unreliably blowing apart or separating from the jacket. Under 2000 fps a lot of them will not expand properly or at all in soft tissue. To answer your question I use a little bit of everything in my firearms. Ballistic tips, game kings, SST”s, midway USA branded and Speer to name a few in the cup and core selection depending on the accuracy of the individual firearm for whitetail deer. .
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Re: Deer bullets
[Re: warrior]
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10/25/22 05:35 AM
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That's why I'm thinking copper. The shards in the meat. My longest shot to date is 62 paces, shortest 3.
Something that holds together no matter impact velocity or what it hits would be good. I really don't need the penetration on these buck and quarter deer though. sounds like 30-30 country, or something like my current woods rifle, the 6.5 grendel. edited to add: or better yet for close range deer hunting an AR chambered in 458 Socom or 450 bushmaster is an absolute whitetail hammer!
Last edited by Ridge Runner1960; 10/25/22 07:07 AM.
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Re: Deer bullets
[Re: warrior]
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10/25/22 06:14 AM
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I like accubonds, seem to drop deer in their tracks.
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Re: Deer bullets
[Re: warrior]
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10/25/22 08:48 AM
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I've never used premium bullets, like RR1960 points out they are not needed. Any softpoint does the trick for me and I've done darn little blood tracking.
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Re: Deer bullets
[Re: Gary Benson]
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10/25/22 09:02 AM
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Shot placement is important. A .17 HMR is a heck of a deer rifle in the right hands. So is a 22lr, or so I'm told cause I know nothing.
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Re: Deer bullets
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10/25/22 09:02 AM
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I've used copper bullets exclusively for 25-ish years with good results, but my hunting conditions might be different than yours. One reason I prefer them is that they always stay together and penetrate deep. In approx 30 caribou and moose, I've only recovered a single slug (nicely expanded with 4 petals). This is relevant because my hunting rifle is also my bear protection. Also, we usually hunt in open country and can watch our quarry take the hit and react, rather than disappear at the shot into a brushy thicket or gully. Lastly, I never find bullet shards in the meat. Meat damage is modest given that copper bullets don't blow up on close shots. X2
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Re: Deer bullets
[Re: warrior]
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10/25/22 09:22 AM
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Gary Benson
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Shot placement is important. A .17 HMR is a heck of a deer rifle in the right hands. So is a 22lr, or so I'm told cause I know nothing. 
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Re: Deer bullets
[Re: warrior]
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10/25/22 10:03 AM
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Ok so this post is just assuming you or anybody else can afford every type of bullet. My main caliber is 6.8 SPC which uses .277 bullets. My hunting gun is a factory Ruger Mini 6.8 SPC and with that rifle, Remingtons UMC 6.8 SPC ammo shoots sub moa. How they make that bullet im not sure but I love it.
However my main go to is barnes .277 110 grain BTHP, I was able to get a smoking deal on what should be like 20 years worth. These are copper only, but my next one to try is Hornady's full boar line of 100grain and 110 grain. I have the 120grain SST to use as well.
My alternate go to is the .277 90 grain gold dot speer bonded bullets. Any of the Gold Dot bonded bullets are awesome, I always bring the same amount of bonded bullets as the full copper ones.
Muzzle loader bullets are the federal trophy copper pack from walmart. Its aggravating because its difficult to buy in bulk for a good deal. Thor is who I would go with, they were great to deal with and offered their best deal for a bulk buy, but it was still too much per bullet. Would like to see a bonded 50 cal muzzle loader bullet, if you guys know of one let me know.
If I was really desolate, or just starting off in life, I would only use my 30-30 and use whatever bullets you could get. A 30-30 will kill everything in North America absolutely fine, Federal makes a great 170 grain bullet for it, as well as a nice bonded set too. 30-30 have killed more elk than any other caliber, but 300 win mag will take it over soon. For white tail, no caliber will ever come close to 30-30, considering a lot of people still hunt with it today myself included.
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Re: Deer bullets
[Re: warrior]
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10/25/22 10:23 AM
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seems like the 06 and 280 are long range guns in a short range setting
I just shoot cup and core
I prefer the 180s in the 308 and my 30-06s are semi auto so I run at 308 velocities M1 and 742
I prefer heavier because I like 2 holes but also like using a bullet I can afford to shoot a bunch in practice
I was getting the 180s for about 22 dollars a hundred they are up to 30 a hundred now and I wish I had bought a lot more when they were on sale at 19.99 a few years ago
at 62 paces might as well just use the shotgun with slugs get good shooting fast
most of my deer have come under 80 yards with slugs , slugs break running deer down fast but if you get that 125 yard shot there aren't much good
for the 06 in the thick stuff like that I would be looking at a heavier bullet like a 180 range isn't a concern so breaking bone and making exit would be to break them down quick because of the weight they don't travel as fast so they don't expand as violently close
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