No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers ***NO POLITICS
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting~The Pen and Quill

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Deer bullets #7700034
10/25/22 12:21 AM
10/25/22 12:21 AM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,872
Georgia
warrior Offline OP
trapper
warrior  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,872
Georgia
With deer season upon how about we open a thread on bullets, not cartridges or calibers. While I don't find the time to hunt these days I'm contemplating making the time in the future.

What I've shot the last few years that I did get in the woods was 150gr ballistic tips out of a 30-06. Before that corelocks 140gr in a 280.

Didn't care for the corelocks due to my tendency to take my shots at knife fighting distance and preference for breaking down the running gear. They grenade under those conditions with the lead core doing the damage. I can't recall an exit.

The ballistic tips seem to hold up better even when hitting the spine. Never recovered one.

Since I'm getting low I went looking, yup everything out of stock. So what say the crowd. I'm thinking a bonded or copper.

Re: Deer bullets [Re: warrior] #7700045
10/25/22 01:47 AM
10/25/22 01:47 AM
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 811
Interior Alaska
3
30/06 Offline
trapper
30/06  Offline
trapper
3

Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 811
Interior Alaska
I've used copper bullets exclusively for 25-ish years with good results, but my hunting conditions might be different than yours. One reason I prefer them is that they always stay together and penetrate deep. In approx 30 caribou and moose, I've only recovered a single slug (nicely expanded with 4 petals). This is relevant because my hunting rifle is also my bear protection. Also, we usually hunt in open country and can watch our quarry take the hit and react, rather than disappear at the shot into a brushy thicket or gully. Lastly, I never find bullet shards in the meat. Meat damage is modest given that copper bullets don't blow up on close shots.

Re: Deer bullets [Re: warrior] #7700046
10/25/22 01:56 AM
10/25/22 01:56 AM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,872
Georgia
warrior Offline OP
trapper
warrior  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,872
Georgia
That's why I'm thinking copper. The shards in the meat. My longest shot to date is 62 paces, shortest 3.

Something that holds together no matter impact velocity or what it hits would be good. I really don't need the penetration on these buck and quarter deer though.

Re: Deer bullets [Re: warrior] #7700059
10/25/22 04:00 AM
10/25/22 04:00 AM
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,127
Goldsboro, NC
John C Offline
trapper
John C  Offline
trapper

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,127
Goldsboro, NC
Any cup and core bullet like core loks or ballistic tips should work fine on deer when not pushed too fast. These bullets are designed to work in the 2900-2000 fps neighborhood. Go over 2900 fps and they can unreliably blowing apart or separating from the jacket. Under 2000 fps a lot of them will not expand properly or at all in soft tissue. To answer your question I use a little bit of everything in my firearms. Ballistic tips, game kings, SST”s, midway USA branded and Speer to name a few in the cup and core selection depending on the accuracy of the individual firearm for whitetail deer. .


More Cowbell
Re: Deer bullets [Re: warrior] #7700066
10/25/22 04:23 AM
10/25/22 04:23 AM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,534
eastern WV
R
Ridge Runner1960 Offline
trapper
Ridge Runner1960  Offline
trapper
R

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,534
eastern WV
There is no need for premium bullets for whiitetails, they are thin skinned medium game. If you use a high intensity cartridge and expect impacts above 3200 FPS then they are a good bet. Have you checked on the availability of hornady sst's?

Re: Deer bullets [Re: warrior] #7700070
10/25/22 04:35 AM
10/25/22 04:35 AM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,534
eastern WV
R
Ridge Runner1960 Offline
trapper
Ridge Runner1960  Offline
trapper
R

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,534
eastern WV
Originally Posted by warrior
That's why I'm thinking copper. The shards in the meat. My longest shot to date is 62 paces, shortest 3.

Something that holds together no matter impact velocity or what it hits would be good. I really don't need the penetration on these buck and quarter deer though.

sounds like 30-30 country, or something like my current woods rifle, the 6.5 grendel.
edited to add:
or better yet for close range deer hunting an AR chambered in 458 Socom or 450 bushmaster is an absolute whitetail hammer!

Last edited by Ridge Runner1960; 10/25/22 06:07 AM.
Re: Deer bullets [Re: warrior] #7700076
10/25/22 04:48 AM
10/25/22 04:48 AM
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 95
NC
G
garyll1959 Offline
trapper
garyll1959  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 95
NC
For whitetails, 150 Hornady Interlocks in everything 30 caliber that runs less than 3100fps. In my experience, just about perfect in 308 / 30-06 class cartridges.

Re: Deer bullets [Re: warrior] #7700081
10/25/22 04:58 AM
10/25/22 04:58 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 26,339
williamsburg ks
D
danny clifton Online content
"Grumpy Old Man"
danny clifton  Online Content
"Grumpy Old Man"
D

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 26,339
williamsburg ks
Quote
62 paces



[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Deer bullets [Re: warrior] #7700091
10/25/22 05:14 AM
10/25/22 05:14 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 3,974
uniontown pa
G
gutthooked Offline
trapper
gutthooked  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 3,974
uniontown pa
I like accubonds, seem to drop deer in their tracks.


Don't limit your challenges
Challenge your limits
Re: Deer bullets [Re: warrior] #7700175
10/25/22 07:48 AM
10/25/22 07:48 AM
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 16,775
The Hill Country of Texas
Leftlane Offline
"HOSS"
Leftlane  Offline
"HOSS"

Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 16,775
The Hill Country of Texas
I've never used premium bullets, like RR1960 points out they are not needed. Any softpoint does the trick for me and I've done darn little blood tracking.


“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.”
Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers


Re: Deer bullets [Re: warrior] #7700181
10/25/22 07:54 AM
10/25/22 07:54 AM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,872
Georgia
warrior Offline OP
trapper
warrior  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,872
Georgia
Oh I agree about not needing just don't care for bullet splatter. They've all been dead and none required me look long for them.

A good hard cast lead would do the trick. Or go back to the shotgun with slugs.

Re: Deer bullets [Re: warrior] #7700183
10/25/22 07:55 AM
10/25/22 07:55 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 18,723
Sandhills Nebraska
G
Gary Benson Offline
trapper
Gary Benson  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 18,723
Sandhills Nebraska
Shot placement is important. A .17 HMR is a heck of a deer rifle in the right hands.


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: Deer bullets [Re: Gary Benson] #7700187
10/25/22 08:02 AM
10/25/22 08:02 AM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,872
Georgia
warrior Offline OP
trapper
warrior  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,872
Georgia
Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Shot placement is important. A .17 HMR is a heck of a deer rifle in the right hands.


So is a 22lr, or so I'm told cause I know nothing.

Re: Deer bullets [Re: 30/06] #7700188
10/25/22 08:02 AM
10/25/22 08:02 AM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 7,999
Alaska and Washington State
W
waggler Offline
trapper
waggler  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 7,999
Alaska and Washington State
Originally Posted by 30/06
I've used copper bullets exclusively for 25-ish years with good results, but my hunting conditions might be different than yours. One reason I prefer them is that they always stay together and penetrate deep. In approx 30 caribou and moose, I've only recovered a single slug (nicely expanded with 4 petals). This is relevant because my hunting rifle is also my bear protection. Also, we usually hunt in open country and can watch our quarry take the hit and react, rather than disappear at the shot into a brushy thicket or gully. Lastly, I never find bullet shards in the meat. Meat damage is modest given that copper bullets don't blow up on close shots.

X2


"My life is better than your vacation"
Re: Deer bullets [Re: warrior] #7700190
10/25/22 08:07 AM
10/25/22 08:07 AM
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 8,028
Marion Kansas
Y
Yes sir Offline
trapper
Yes sir  Offline
trapper
Y

Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 8,028
Marion Kansas
Haven't shot a lot of deer with a rifle but all have been with Rem coreloks except one. Corloks worked fine. Seen one shot with a varmint bullet. Not a good choice in my experience.

Re: Deer bullets [Re: warrior] #7700197
10/25/22 08:20 AM
10/25/22 08:20 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 54,972
Minnesota
330-Trapper Offline

trapper
330-Trapper  Offline

trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 54,972
Minnesota
Bonded
Copper Jacket bonded are my first choice...

Remington used to make a Remington Ultra bonded

I bought a few boxes back in 2002 or so of
140 gr. Bonded 7mmRem mag. My Browning SS A bolt loved them and I used them here on Deer and in Wyoming for lopes. Long shots or close the bonded 140s opened up perfectly as designed and Caused No meat damage.

I can't find those particular bullets anymore


NRA and NTA Life Member
www.BackroadsRevised@etsy.com




Re: Deer bullets [Re: warrior] #7700199
10/25/22 08:22 AM
10/25/22 08:22 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 18,723
Sandhills Nebraska
G
Gary Benson Offline
trapper
Gary Benson  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 18,723
Sandhills Nebraska
Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Shot placement is important. A .17 HMR is a heck of a deer rifle in the right hands.


So is a 22lr, or so I'm told cause I know nothing.

smile


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: Deer bullets [Re: warrior] #7700218
10/25/22 09:03 AM
10/25/22 09:03 AM
Joined: Dec 2021
Posts: 986
Louisiana
M
MattLA Offline
trapper
MattLA  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: Dec 2021
Posts: 986
Louisiana
Ok so this post is just assuming you or anybody else can afford every type of bullet. My main caliber is 6.8 SPC which uses .277 bullets. My hunting gun is a factory Ruger Mini 6.8 SPC and with that rifle, Remingtons UMC 6.8 SPC ammo shoots sub moa. How they make that bullet im not sure but I love it.

However my main go to is barnes .277 110 grain BTHP, I was able to get a smoking deal on what should be like 20 years worth. These are copper only, but my next one to try is Hornady's full boar line of 100grain and 110 grain. I have the 120grain SST to use as well.

My alternate go to is the .277 90 grain gold dot speer bonded bullets. Any of the Gold Dot bonded bullets are awesome, I always bring the same amount of bonded bullets as the full copper ones.

Muzzle loader bullets are the federal trophy copper pack from walmart. Its aggravating because its difficult to buy in bulk for a good deal. Thor is who I would go with, they were great to deal with and offered their best deal for a bulk buy, but it was still too much per bullet. Would like to see a bonded 50 cal muzzle loader bullet, if you guys know of one let me know.

If I was really desolate, or just starting off in life, I would only use my 30-30 and use whatever bullets you could get. A 30-30 will kill everything in North America absolutely fine, Federal makes a great 170 grain bullet for it, as well as a nice bonded set too. 30-30 have killed more elk than any other caliber, but 300 win mag will take it over soon. For white tail, no caliber will ever come close to 30-30, considering a lot of people still hunt with it today myself included.

Re: Deer bullets [Re: warrior] #7700226
10/25/22 09:23 AM
10/25/22 09:23 AM
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 14,831
Green County Wisconsin
G
GREENCOUNTYPETE Offline
trapper
GREENCOUNTYPETE  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 14,831
Green County Wisconsin
seems like the 06 and 280 are long range guns in a short range setting

I just shoot cup and core

I prefer the 180s in the 308 and my 30-06s are semi auto so I run at 308 velocities M1 and 742

I prefer heavier because I like 2 holes but also like using a bullet I can afford to shoot a bunch in practice

I was getting the 180s for about 22 dollars a hundred they are up to 30 a hundred now and I wish I had bought a lot more when they were on sale at 19.99 a few years ago

at 62 paces might as well just use the shotgun with slugs get good shooting fast

most of my deer have come under 80 yards with slugs , slugs break running deer down fast but if you get that 125 yard shot there aren't much good

for the 06 in the thick stuff like that I would be looking at a heavier bullet like a 180 range isn't a concern so breaking bone and making exit would be to break them down quick
because of the weight they don't travel as fast so they don't expand as violently close


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Deer bullets [Re: warrior] #7700237
10/25/22 09:39 AM
10/25/22 09:39 AM
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 4,843
east central WI
K
k snow Offline
trapper
k snow  Offline
trapper
K

Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 4,843
east central WI
Used to shoot 180 grain corelokt's out of the -06, but the bullet disintegration turned me off. Switched to blue box federals (still 180 grain), much happier with the bullet performance.

Page 1 of 2 1 2
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread