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Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707251 11/02/22 09:10 PM 11/02/22 09:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 35 CT H Hawkin trapper
Hawkin trapper H Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 35 CT	Love the old T/C’s. Shot my very first buck ever with a T/C New Englander. Got a 12 gauge barrel with it too. My daughter shot a nice gobbler with it. Just bought her a nice .45 Seneca from the T/C custom shop for deer hunting this year. Got a great deal on it

Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707295 11/02/22 09:49 PM 11/02/22 09:49 PM
Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 5,944 MB J Jurassic Park trapper
Jurassic Park trapper J Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 5,944 MB	That’s cool! I hope you shoot a deer again with it! Cold as ice!

Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Moosetrot] #7707317 11/02/22 10:11 PM 11/02/22 10:11 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 15,676 Goldsboro, North Carolina Paul Dobbins OP "Trapperman custodian"
Paul Dobbins OP "Trapperman custodian" Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 15,676 Goldsboro, North Carolina	Originally Posted by Moosetrot That gun is old enough it may have a barrel made by the Sharon Barrel Co. I have one I bought in '76 and it has a Sharon Barrel. I can't even remember all the stuff I won shooting that thing in competition. When you take the barrel off the stock, take a look at the bottom flat, between the barrel wedge lug and the lock. Sharon Barrels are stamped with a "spade" (like in cards) shape. If so that's one of the best barrels ever made. Moosetrot No, mine has a maltese cross. Apparently, it is a Douglas barrel. The serial number is 61891. I also have another newer barrel for it, and the serial number on it is 159037. That second barrel has a diamond stamped on it.

Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707372 11/02/22 10:57 PM 11/02/22 10:57 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 15,676 Goldsboro, North Carolina Paul Dobbins OP "Trapperman custodian"
Paul Dobbins OP "Trapperman custodian" Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 15,676 Goldsboro, North Carolina	I found this on one of the forums. It appears the second barrel is a Sharon. I also found that Sharon didn't start making black powder barrels until 1973. Since I purchased mine in 1972, it stands to reason it wouldn't be a Sharon barrel. https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?320400-Pre-Warning-TC-Renegade "A diamond or a spade stamped in the underside of the barrel indicates Sharon. Sharon provided T/Cs barrels until the late 70's. Douglas Stamped a cross in the under side of the barrel. They supplied their barrels till the early 80s."

Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707484 11/03/22 06:38 AM 11/03/22 06:38 AM
Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 11,636 Michigan T Trapper Dahlgren trapper
Trapper Dahlgren trapper T Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 11,636 Michigan	good luck paul and keep us posted on your hunt

Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707516 11/03/22 07:30 AM 11/03/22 07:30 AM
Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 1,625 La. G Gator Foot trapper
Gator Foot trapper G Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 1,625 La.	That’s a fine rifle!! With all these muzzle loading rifles , everyone is showing. Y’all are giving me the fever bad!

Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707535 11/03/22 07:56 AM 11/03/22 07:56 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,603 Pa W Wright Brothers trapper
Wright Brothers trapper W Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,603 Pa	Always interesting about barrel stamps. I have same one about same year. But it is flint (Pa deer hunting law at the time), and has K in front of SN, kit I assume. Soon to be wife bought it for me and I shot a buck fawn with it before blued. I told of this 20 +- years ago on here and got a much different review. Shows the accuracy of web reviews. Have had a lot of fun with it. I'd load it without charge and ball, just prime the frizzen, hand it to a "pro", and watch him flinch lol. TLC from here was the authority on black powder guns in my eyes. Last edited by Wright Brothers; 11/03/22 07:59 AM.

Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707630 11/03/22 11:06 AM 11/03/22 11:06 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,812 Lufkin, Tx. L Lufkin Trapper trapper
Lufkin Trapper trapper L Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,812 Lufkin, Tx.	Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins I haven't shot a deer with this gun since 1985, so I thought it was about time to give her some exercise. I bought this gun back in 1972, and shot it a lot back in those days. I even used it on prairie dogs. It's a T/C Hawken 50 cal and use to be very accurate, probably still is more than I am. I shot it in a metalic silhouette league, as well as used it for hunting. I have found some pyrodex and some maxi-balls, but am still on the hunt for some #11 percussion caps. How long does it have to charge before it's ready to go? Billy Member # 16.

Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707684 11/03/22 12:40 PM 11/03/22 12:40 PM
Joined: Jul 2016 Posts: 5,393 South Carolina T Tom cat trapper
Tom cat trapper T Joined: Jul 2016 Posts: 5,393 South Carolina	A dang nice looking hawkin you've got there Mr. Paul!! If you were needing 209s I could help you out. Sugarcreektrapping@gmail.com

Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Tom cat] #7707781 11/03/22 02:54 PM 11/03/22 02:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 772 Ashley county Ar. B boncoon trapper
boncoon trapper B Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 772 Ashley county Ar.	I have that exact same gun. Killed a spike buck 2 weeks ago today, in my yard. 240 grain hp sabot, he went down and stayed down. I have very few caps left didn't know they were hard to come by or I would have been looking earlier.

Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707859 11/03/22 04:49 PM 11/03/22 04:49 PM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 2,548 Flint, Michigan bhugo trapper
bhugo trapper Joined: May 2007 Posts: 2,548 Flint, Michigan	Nice looking muzzleloader. Did it get more precise the more you shot it? My old Thompson Center Hawken .45 sure did. Member MTPCA, FTA and NTA

Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707867 11/03/22 05:10 PM 11/03/22 05:10 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 8,891 St. Cloud, MN trapperkeck trapper
trapperkeck trapper Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 8,891 St. Cloud, MN	I stumbled across #11 percussion caps today at our local Fleet Farm. They were like $12/100, which seemed stupidly expensive to me. "The voice of reason!"

Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Lufkin Trapper] #7707870 11/03/22 05:18 PM 11/03/22 05:18 PM
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 21,045 New Hampshire N Nessmuck trapper
Nessmuck trapper N Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 21,045 New Hampshire	Originally Posted by Lufkin Trapper Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins I haven't shot a deer with this gun since 1985, so I thought it was about time to give her some exercise. I bought this gun back in 1972, and shot it a lot back in those days. I even used it on prairie dogs. It's a T/C Hawken 50 cal and use to be very accurate, probably still is more than I am. I shot it in a metalic silhouette league, as well as used it for hunting. I have found some pyrodex and some maxi-balls, but am still on the hunt for some #11 percussion caps. How long does it have to charge before it's ready to go? No that right there..is funny ! It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.

Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: bhugo] #7707873 11/03/22 05:23 PM 11/03/22 05:23 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 15,676 Goldsboro, North Carolina Paul Dobbins OP "Trapperman custodian"
Paul Dobbins OP "Trapperman custodian" Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 15,676 Goldsboro, North Carolina	Originally Posted by bhugo Nice looking muzzleloader. Did it get more precise the more you shot it? My old Thompson Center Hawken .45 sure did. It was amazingly accurate right out of the box.

Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: trapperkeck] #7707875 11/03/22 05:27 PM 11/03/22 05:27 PM
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,011 east central WI K k snow trapper
k snow trapper K Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,011 east central WI	Originally Posted by trapperkeck I stumbled across #11 percussion caps today at our local Fleet Farm. They were like $12/100, which seemed stupidly expensive to me. Welcome to the new price of caps.

Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707921 11/03/22 06:31 PM 11/03/22 06:31 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,167 Western Michigan Animals Only trapper
Animals Only trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,167 Western Michigan	Gees Paul by the title i thought you were going medical. Never heard it called a smoke pole. Last edited by Animals Only; 11/03/22 07:14 PM. AKA: Rusty Shackleford

Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707966 11/03/22 07:33 PM 11/03/22 07:33 PM
Joined: Jul 2016 Posts: 3,928 NY Canvasback2 trapper
Canvasback2 trapper Joined: Jul 2016 Posts: 3,928 NY	Cabelas has them. $14.99 for 100 , but they charge $22.00 for hazardous shipping fee

Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707990 11/03/22 07:58 PM 11/03/22 07:58 PM
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,591 Northern lower Michigan Feedinggrounds trapper
Feedinggrounds trapper Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,591 Northern lower Michigan	Paul, I have a 1972 Hawken also, belonged to My older brother. I was a kid tagging along with him when he bought it. Inspired by the movie Jerimiah Johnson that showed in 1972. Pretty sure I started out trapping muskrats and snaring rabbits that same year. you're only allowed so many sunrises... I aim to see every one of them!

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