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Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707251
11/02/22 08:10 PM
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Love the old T/Cís. Shot my very first buck ever with a T/C New Englander. Got a 12 gauge barrel with it too. My daughter shot a nice gobbler with it. Just bought her a nice .45 Seneca from the T/C custom shop for deer hunting this year. Got a great deal on it

Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707295
11/02/22 08:49 PM
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Thatís cool! I hope you shoot a deer again with it!


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Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Moosetrot] #7707317
11/02/22 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Moosetrot
That gun is old enough it may have a barrel made by the Sharon Barrel Co. I have one I bought in '76 and it has a Sharon Barrel. I can't even remember all the stuff I won shooting that thing in competition.

When you take the barrel off the stock, take a look at the bottom flat, between the barrel wedge lug and the lock. Sharon Barrels are stamped with a "spade" (like in cards) shape. If so that's one of the best barrels ever made.

Moosetrot


No, mine has a maltese cross. Apparently, it is a Douglas barrel. The serial number is 61891. I also have another newer barrel for it, and the serial number on it is 159037. That second barrel has a diamond stamped on it.



Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707372
11/02/22 09:57 PM
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I found this on one of the forums. It appears the second barrel is a Sharon. I also found that Sharon didn't start making black powder barrels until 1973. Since I purchased mine in 1972, it stands to reason it wouldn't be a Sharon barrel.

https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?320400-Pre-Warning-TC-Renegade

"A diamond or a spade stamped in the underside of the barrel indicates Sharon. Sharon provided T/Cs barrels until the late 70's. Douglas Stamped a cross in the under side of the barrel. They supplied their barrels till the early 80s."



Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707484
11/03/22 05:38 AM
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good luck paul and keep us posted on your hunt

Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707516
11/03/22 06:30 AM
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Thatís a fine rifle!! With all these muzzle loading rifles , everyone is showing. Yíall are giving me the fever bad!

Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707535
11/03/22 06:56 AM
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Always interesting about barrel stamps.
I have same one about same year.
But it is flint (Pa deer hunting law at the time),
and has K in front of SN, kit I assume.
Soon to be wife bought it for me and
I shot a buck fawn with it before blued.

I told of this 20 +- years ago on here and got a much different review.
Shows the accuracy of web reviews.
Have had a lot of fun with it.
I'd load it without charge and ball, just prime the frizzen, hand it to a "pro",
and watch him flinch lol.

TLC from here was the authority on black powder guns in my eyes.

Last edited by Wright Brothers; 11/03/22 06:59 AM.




Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707630
11/03/22 10:06 AM
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Lufkin, Tx.
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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
I haven't shot a deer with this gun since 1985, so I thought it was about time to give her some exercise. I bought this gun back in 1972, and shot it a lot back in those days. I even used it on prairie dogs. It's a T/C Hawken 50 cal and use to be very accurate, probably still is more than I am. I shot it in a metalic silhouette league, as well as used it for hunting. I have found some pyrodex and some maxi-balls, but am still on the hunt for some #11 percussion caps.

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How long does it have to charge before it's ready to go?


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Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707684
11/03/22 11:40 AM
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A dang nice looking hawkin you've got there Mr. Paul!! If you were needing 209s I could help you out.


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Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Tom cat] #7707781
11/03/22 01:54 PM
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I have that exact same gun. Killed a spike buck 2 weeks ago today, in my yard. 240 grain hp sabot, he went down and stayed down. I have very few caps left didn't know they were hard to come by or I would have been looking earlier.

Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707859
11/03/22 03:49 PM
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Nice looking muzzleloader. Did it get more precise the more you shot it? My old Thompson Center Hawken .45 sure did.


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Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707867
11/03/22 04:10 PM
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I stumbled across #11 percussion caps today at our local Fleet Farm. They were like $12/100, which seemed stupidly expensive to me.


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Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Lufkin Trapper] #7707870
11/03/22 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Lufkin Trapper
Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
I haven't shot a deer with this gun since 1985, so I thought it was about time to give her some exercise. I bought this gun back in 1972, and shot it a lot back in those days. I even used it on prairie dogs. It's a T/C Hawken 50 cal and use to be very accurate, probably still is more than I am. I shot it in a metalic silhouette league, as well as used it for hunting. I have found some pyrodex and some maxi-balls, but am still on the hunt for some #11 percussion caps.

[Linked Image]

How long does it have to charge before it's ready to go?


No that right there..is funny !


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Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: bhugo] #7707873
11/03/22 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bhugo
Nice looking muzzleloader. Did it get more precise the more you shot it? My old Thompson Center Hawken .45 sure did.


It was amazingly accurate right out of the box.



Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: trapperkeck] #7707875
11/03/22 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by trapperkeck
I stumbled across #11 percussion caps today at our local Fleet Farm. They were like $12/100, which seemed stupidly expensive to me.


Welcome to the new price of caps.

Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707921
11/03/22 05:31 PM
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Gees Paul by the title i thought you were going medical. Never heard it called a smoke pole.

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Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707966
11/03/22 06:33 PM
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Cabelas has them. $14.99 for 100 , but they charge $22.00 for hazardous shipping fee

Re: Broke out the old smoke pole [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7707990
11/03/22 06:58 PM
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Paul, I have a 1972 Hawken also, belonged to My older brother. I was a kid tagging along with him when he bought it. Inspired by the movie Jerimiah Johnson that showed in 1972. Pretty sure I started out trapping muskrats and snaring rabbits that same year.


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