Ol dad, I'd want vengeance regardless of their state of mind. Legalizing more drugs just opens the door to more whacked out people doing stupid things. We have enough issues with alcohol and illicit drugs. More drugs won't make anything better, except the tax coffers. Its about votes and money.

A large number of people who consume often don't make rational decisions, therefore breaking more laws than if they were sober.

Funny just happens to be how my 16 month old son was killed. But running the red light was allready illegal the he wasn't speeding. Much over the limit.

I'm sure any 1000 other laws that you could dream up and pass would not change the outcome. Drugs have been illegal for decades it sure has been effective at stopping them.

Just like when booze were illegal. It sure made a lot of criminals and politicians rich and gave the government even more power.

Drug legalization is a bad thing in many ways. That is just how it is.

The "I don't care what other people do," is one of the biggest lies ever told and sold.
Of course we care what other people do in a civil society.

The way to uncivil the civil is not to care what other people do.
Because all that we do effects other people.
It effects those we live with.
and those we don't live with.
At countless levels.

A community has always been made up of the individuals within it, and when some decide to no longer participate it fosters disunity.
Kinda like what more and more families have being thrown at them now.
More mushrooms please.
Another wonderful plan by the "Makers of".....
Chaos.

The work is endless and the laborers are too few.

Blessings,
Mark

Legalization equals legitimation. So Little Jonny never thought of taking drugs. Fine young man of the community. So now .gov says they're okay so he thinks it must be okay and tries them. Becomes addicted and destroys his own life and the lives of people dear to him. Legitimize drugs through legalization and I guarantee you this hypothetical will occur again and again throughout society.

The only reason they’re working to de list psylocibin is due to the properties it has on rewriting neuron pathways in the brain which helps people with personality disorders and depression. Helps with ptsd apparently. Not saying I condone it but it’s not just for giggles but I’m sure they’ll find a way to take something medicinal and make it recreational like they did with the pot

This. If psilocybin wasn't so stigmatized as being a bad drug, I think a lot more people would be using it to treat mental health issues. In recent years, something that's become popular is called micro-dosing. Micro-dosing is taking 10-15% of a normal "dose" of mushrooms. Taken in small quantities like that, there is no hallucinating, only a slightly heightened sense of awareness and an increased sense of well being.

People who have spent years in a Prozac haze are throwing out their prescription anti-depressants and replacing them with small quantities of a mushroom you can find in most woods and fields. I'm not sure why anyone would think that's a bad thing. Can they be misused? Of course. Just like any prescription drug can. But if I were going to use any kind of substance to treat a mental health condition, I would much rather it be something found in the woods than something created in a Pfizer lab.

AMEN

and not made and shipped from CHINA

Micro dosing is the principle behind almost all medical drugs as most will kill you or cause harm if taken in large doses, just like shrooms or other recreational drugs.

So your point is.

Boozes and cigarettes are ok though right? Over crowded jails full of non violent offenders making no room for violent offenders to be let walk the streets , no knock raids, asset forfeiture, and militarized police must be a good thing also?

There is no question misusing anything can be bad. But making it illegal also has many unseen at first negatives also. Do you believe the war on drugs the last several decades has been successful and had a positive impact? Or maybe drugs and crime are just keep getting worse and it is a complete failure? Honestly questions. Drugs are illegal but I bet I could come up with any type I wanted in very little time even though I don't know much about them ot run in the circles that use them. Sure does not look like it's working to me.

But double down and keep doing what's not worked the last 30 years. Surely it will work in the next 30 maybe we should pass some more freedom stripping laws. Ya that it that will make it work this time.

What's the definition of insanity again?

BTW, I have no problem if substances found in shrooms or other illicit drugs are tested and proven to have beneficial medical use.

I would just ask that some measure of safety and accountability be in place. Not the current system as we could probably all agree that is broken.

Hmm, maybe this is a suitable case for the left's between a doctor and the patient meme.

My point is, isn't it better to to take a small dose of a natural substance than a chemical one? Those that are using psilocybin to treat depression are only taking several doses a week, versus several doses a day, also.

IF psilocybin was being prescribed and used by the medical community people wouldn't be having to use it illicitly. BUT where is the benefit in that for Big Pharma? A strong anti-depressant drug that can be found for free in cow pastures will always be opposed by the companies that stand to lose money from it's use.

Seems we have more drug use in this country than ever before and more dysfunctional people than ever before. Maybe even more drugs will fix the problem.....

So placing a stumbling block in front of your brother(possible drug addiction)is the thing to do? If it truly was war we would be bombing drug cartels into oblivion and trying combatants(drug pushers)in military courts. All we have now is a "war" to fund alphabet agencies and the bureaucracy they support.

You make some good points yotetrapper30, and the same can be said for marijuana.

Big Pharma, Petrol, and Alcohol interests lobbied to demonize pot and have it listed as a schedule 1 drug, right along with heroine, etc.

Jack Herer's book The Emperor Wears no Clothes covers the subject extensively, plus lays out the plants industrial and medicinal qualities.

I'm not advocating it's recreational use however, especially for minors.

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lol

I'm sure just a few more laws will take care of the problem.


What's been being done does not work. So make it easier for them to make poor choices and take the profits out of it some. The laws don't work anyway.

It's a self solving problem. Once they od they are not a problem any longer. Free drugs for all should eliminate the useless eaters and help restore some natural selection we have lost.

Yes but it doesn't work that way in the real world. Just like socialism, great in theory but the results never work as expected. Show me a society where rampant drug abuse ever fixed itself. It just brings the quality of life down for the rest of the society.