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What's with all the cancer lately? #7709292
11/05/22 05:42 AM
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The local pastors here in the Grayling, Michigan area met for lunch yesterday in unity of the faith and for fellowship and to put our heads together as to how to best help the folks in and around the area as we approach the festive Christmas season. All of us, with individual congregations, have witnessed the same thing... more and more people getting diagnosed with very grave cancer. I myself am assisting our church as our pastor is on sabbatical to care for his wife, who has very grave cancer. She's not very old and so people wonder how cancer finds us so young. I sat with another saint yesterday in a care facility who also has serious cancer. And we have two more in our congregation of less than 100, who are right now getting treatments for stage 4 cancers. Every one of these has been diagnosed in the last two months.

These other 4 pastors I met with, also had similar stories and as we came together it was striking how many have cancer in this small rural America area. One of the pastors said, "What's with all the cancer lately?" We didn't venture into reasons of why, or how, but more of the what can we do to assist these dear saints now. One of these ideas was what we do in chaplaincy ministry that's known as a "Ministry of Presence." Just being with people. To talk, to not talk, to sit, to stand.... whatever they may want. To just be there for them because in grave times of suffering, people in their life commonly get "busy" and don't come around as often (don't want to bother them) because our culture isn't taught what to do well during these situations.

At our church, I've scheduled a time of teaching those who would like to support people in this community as a way to show the love of Christ to others this Christmas season.
We pray people come aboard this mission which affects the lives of other people in wondrous ways. We're crafted to be in relationships after all.

Anyone else seeing more cancer in and around their area?
If so, please help your pastors, preachers, ministers, and clergy support those folks in time such as these.

Blessings,
Mark

Re: What's with all the cancer lately? [Re: ] #7709293
11/05/22 05:49 AM
11/05/22 05:49 AM
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Good morning Mark and yes I can tell you from personal experience the same thing. How isolated we become. Our little village nearest us of 120 people has had 24 cancer deaths in 20 yrs or so. Myself, leukemia 14 yrs stage 4 for 7 but praise God Im still here. Im praying for you all....

Re: What's with all the cancer lately? [Re: ] #7709298
11/05/22 06:00 AM
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Did these individuals have anything in common such as living in the same neighborhood, having the same water source, or taking the same medicine/injection? I wonder if it is localized or is cancer up nationwide.

Re: What's with all the cancer lately? [Re: ] #7709301
11/05/22 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Did these individuals have anything in common such as living in the same neighborhood, having the same water source, or taking the same medicine/injection? I wonder if it is localized or is cancer up nationwide.


Good comments JS, and to be honest our focus was on support rather than inquiry. Most of that comes from the fact that a pastor's role is one of shepherding.

Re: What's with all the cancer lately? [Re: ] #7709302
11/05/22 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark June
Originally Posted by J Staton
Did these individuals have anything in common such as living in the same neighborhood, having the same water source, or taking the same medicine/injection? I wonder if it is localized or is cancer up nationwide.


Good comments JS, and to be honest our focus was on support rather than inquiry. Most of that comes from the fact that a pastor's role is one of shepherding.

That's a good thing Mark. Folks in a rough spot need that support. Y'all keep up the good work. As for cancer in the church I attend we haven't had any 'outbreaks' that I'm aware of.

Re: What's with all the cancer lately? [Re: ] #7709309
11/05/22 06:18 AM
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Thanks JS. Glad to hear all is fairly well in your area. It was here also, until about two months ago.
The dear elderly matriarch of our church, all 4'8" of her, tells me, almost every Sunday, to bring the Word of God over and over again - against Satan - because he's attacking our church.
I softly remind her Satan has always, and will always, attack Christ's church since he can't stop any of the calling, redeeming and sealing of God the Father, Son, and Spirit.

Hug your pastor JS. He could use it about now I'm sure.

Blessings,
Mark

Re: What's with all the cancer lately? [Re: ] #7709329
11/05/22 06:51 AM
11/05/22 06:51 AM
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Just saw on the local news the other night that a vaccine for some types of breast cancer is just on the horizon. I think cancer has been around a lot more than we thought, technology is just catching up in finding and naming it. Been in a lot of bible studies where the debate would come up if Job had cancer?

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11/05/22 06:53 AM
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Exposure to chemicals. Stuff like herbicides and insecticides. Down there at Camp Lejuene there was a civilian dry cleaner. Dumped all his cleaning agents in an old well. Got into the base water supply. My youngest grandson lives with me. Leukemia killed his dad. Drs said it was probably exposure to benzine. I also believe that diagnosis is more common now. People did not go to see a DR till they were dying when I was a kid, unless they needed sewed up or a bone set. If a 60 year old got sick and died nobody really looked for a cause. My Moms dad collapsed at work when she was 12. He was in his early 40's. Still dont know cause of death. It was just assumed he musta had a bad heart. I am not convinced there is more cancer now just better health care and diagnosis.


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Re: What's with all the cancer lately? [Re: Foxpaw] #7709333
11/05/22 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
Just saw on the local news the other night that a vaccine for some types of breast cancer is just on the horizon. I think cancer has been around a lot more than we thought, technology is just catching up in finding and naming it. Been in a lot of bible studies where the debate would come up if Job had cancer?


That report might be referring to vaccine research aimed at the HER2 protein in breast ducts? That's been ongoing for quite some time and I hadn't heard anymore about it in the last 5-6 years.
Job having cancer is an interesting context for, "Then Satan went out from the presence of the LORD and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head.
and he took a potsherd to scrape himself while he was sitting among the ashes (Job 2:7–8). The Hebrew word for boils is shekh-een and means to burn or inflammation. Would cancer do that? I'm not sure since I'm not a cancer doc.

Always good to study alongside others!

Blessings,
Mark

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11/05/22 07:02 AM
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Danny you may be right. With clusters like this you would think there is some common denominator. From what I understand there have been substantial increases of diagnosed cancer over the last two years amongst the military.

Re: What's with all the cancer lately? [Re: ] #7709336
11/05/22 07:09 AM
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I don’t know either what is up with the high numbers, Mark.
Personally, when I go to my oncologist, or when I drive past the other oncology facility in town. The parking lots are overflowing full. Sometime we see cars parked along street because lot is full.
I have a great oncologist, but I have friends that attend also. When we are in the waiting room it’s humbling to look around the room knowing why we are all there. The support systems are great.
Someone always has a box of hand knitted stocking caps on a table free for those who want one. There are recipes for healthy foods and snacks on another table. But reality they are set up at the facility to handle many cases. The transfusion station room has many chairs. The blood draw room has multiple seats.
It’s a terrific facility to handle what needs to be done but it always strikes me how many of us are there, at any given time or day. Lots of us.
I always appreciate the most thoughtful thing I see in the waiting room is the double seating. My wife and I always take one and just hold each other while we wait to be called back. My wife is the most awesome caretaker and will fight for me like no other. But for those few moments while we wait to be called back we just hold each other and know why we are there.
We have deaths in our family from cancer, both sides of the family. I’ve attended high school classmate funerals, too. Heavy Agricultural area. Lots of fertilizers, pesticides, herbicides usage and runoff. We put so much preservatives and other crap in our processed and packaged foods too. Where is the culprit? Hopefully someone can pinpoint it and fix it for future generations.
In mean time I will keep taking care of my family, keep trapping, and hugging my wife as long as I possibly can. Too much at stake in this fight.
Jim

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Re: What's with all the cancer lately? [Re: ] #7709349
11/05/22 07:35 AM
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Dr Stanislaw Buzynski was having very good success treating cancer with a protein used from healthy peoples urine until the government stopped him. There was a lot of people being treated by him were having very good results. There was a documentary on YouTube called Burzynski the cancer cure cover up I watched it 8 or 9 years ago and it was quite lengthy video but very interesting. He was having extremely good results with people that had brain cancer. This treatment had no side effects and was very cheap compared to chemo and radiation. If I remember right he was based out of Texas and I wonder if he really was onto something and out government shut him down how much farther advanced 50 years later would this treatment be.

Re: What's with all the cancer lately? [Re: ] #7709352
11/05/22 07:37 AM
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Diets in usa arent good anymore....along with environmental issues.

Re: What's with all the cancer lately? [Re: ] #7709361
11/05/22 07:55 AM
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Just heard on the "news" that living on the western edge of a time zone increases certain cancers. Presumably by exposure to electric lighting as apposed to natural light. This came up during a discussion of daylight savings time vs standard time.


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Re: What's with all the cancer lately? [Re: ] #7709366
11/05/22 08:04 AM
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Experimental injections may be to blame but we're not allowed to talk about that , not here and not on any social media platforms

I've posted links to ongoing research on the subject but they got axed


I guess it's all fake news until it's not


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Re: What's with all the cancer lately? [Re: ] #7709368
11/05/22 08:07 AM
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Over there.
For one, its a multi billion dollar a year industry. They don't want to cure it. Just treat it.

Re: What's with all the cancer lately? [Re: ] #7709370
11/05/22 08:14 AM
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Well Mark what we forget is there's over 3,500 different types of cancer we've all got it in our DNA to one point or another .

The form of cancer I had was P - 16 human papilloma that appeared in my throat / tonsils and I chewed and kept Copenhagen in business for many years , was my cancer caused from tobacco no but it was hereditary from both of my parents who passed away from cancer .

If you suddenly find yourself in the role as a care giver to someone dealing with cancer treatments and they're going through chemotherapy and radiation my advice is keep the conversations positive and upbeat and keep them eating food as long as possible during the treatments because a feeding tube sucks and isn't fun or pleasant in any way shape or form .

There's even a men's cancer survivors group here in Lewistown so I'm sure there's one near you or start one .

Please feel free to ask me any questions you may have via pm and I'll do the best I can to help you .

I'm cancer free since 12 - 26 -2017 , coming up on 5 years it's been quite a wild ride !
Allan


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Re: What's with all the cancer lately? [Re: ] #7709373
11/05/22 08:24 AM
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No mystery here, ask the life insurance companies what's going on with non covid fatalities....And why the issue has received almost no news coverage.


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Re: What's with all the cancer lately? [Re: ] #7709379
11/05/22 08:34 AM
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In May my wife was diagnosed with stage 3 breast cancer. She had a lumpectomy done due to her poor heart condition. They also did a surgery to remove lymph nodes in the arm pit area , Dr's removed 7 nodes all cancerous. Next plan was for chemotherapy and then radiation , but before radiation can be started she had to have her defibulator moved to the other side of her chest . The chemo is done now ( would not wish that on anyone) and in 2 weeks another surgery to remove all lymph nodes in the area. Poor women has been through he-- and back. Alot of people in our area have died from or had cancer. 4 close neighbors died.


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Re: What's with all the cancer lately? [Re: AntiGov] #7709382
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Experimental injections may be to blame but we're not allowed to talk about that , not here and not on any social media platforms

I've posted links to ongoing research on the subject but they got axed


I guess it's all fake news until it's not

I believe what your saying is true, along with many other factors, chemical exposure, smart everything, phones smart meter, computers, appliances. Roundup ready everything from alfalfa, corn,sugarbeats, just to name a few, and couple that with a couch potato generation that's imoblile, a real zombie apocalypse. Spiritual depravity, what I mean by this is lack of discernment. Peaple put there faith in worldly things, Google, social media, pharmacia. The father of lies has more tools and subtle deceptions than we could ever know.


Ephesians 6: 12. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.


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