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Wind and solar #7711307
11/07/22 12:37 PM 11/07/22 12:37 PM
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So what does a person or business do if there is an extended cloudy and windless day or week?

How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: Wind and solar [Re: bowhunter27295] #7711308
11/07/22 12:41 PM 11/07/22 12:41 PM
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Fire up the diesel generator

Gotta live up to the nickname...
Re: Wind and solar [Re: bowhunter27295] #7711310
11/07/22 12:42 PM 11/07/22 12:42 PM
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What does a person do? Go dark and do without.
Re: Wind and solar [Re: bowhunter27295] #7711316
11/07/22 12:47 PM 11/07/22 12:47 PM
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I’ll sell you some oil and gas.

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Re: Wind and solar [Re: bowhunter27295] #7711329
11/07/22 12:57 PM 11/07/22 12:57 PM
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Your battery bank should be large enough to last 3- 10 days
Re: Wind and solar [Re: misterb] #7711335
11/07/22 01:07 PM 11/07/22 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by misterb
Your battery bank should be large enough to last 3- 10 days


At full usage without cutting back to save power?

How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: Wind and solar [Re: coondagger2] #7711354
11/07/22 01:28 PM 11/07/22 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by coondagger2
Fire up the diesel generator

This!
Re: Wind and solar [Re: coondagger2] #7711362
11/07/22 01:35 PM 11/07/22 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by coondagger2
Fire up the diesel generator


You cannot use fossil fuels you blasphemous heathen!!

How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: Wind and solar [Re: bowhunter27295] #7711376
11/07/22 01:45 PM 11/07/22 01:45 PM
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Sniffy's ramblings about replacing coal and nuclear power plants with solar and wind energy is ridiculous ..... he may as well propose to power the nation with fairy dust and unicorn farts. ....... In order to replace a single nuclear or coal power plant you would need around 18 million solar panels ... each measuring 2x 3 feet in size. That would be enough to put a roof over the asylum we call DC. Then you would need a mountain of batteries as solar panels don't produce much energy at night or when its cloudy or when to snows .....

Thats just to replace ONE plant. Considering that those idiots at the helm want to replace all cars and trucks with electric vechiles, the need for electric power generation is going to increase exponentially and they all need their own batteries.

Quite frankly its a crazy idea as a whole and does not stand up to the tiniest bit of real world scrutiny.

Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: Wind and solar [Re: bowhunter27295] #7711382
11/07/22 01:59 PM 11/07/22 01:59 PM
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This is still the best way to power our country.
All on private land.

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Re: Wind and solar [Re: Scuba1] #7711389
11/07/22 02:17 PM 11/07/22 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
Sniffy's ramblings about replacing coal and nuclear power plants with solar and wind energy is ridiculous ..... he may as well propose to power the nation with fairy dust and unicorn farts. ....... In order to replace a single nuclear or coal power plant you would need around 18 million solar panels ... each measuring 2x 3 feet in size. That would be enough to put a roof over the asylum we call DC. Then you would need a mountain of batteries as solar panels don't produce much energy at night or when its cloudy or when to snows .....

Thats just to replace ONE plant. Considering that those idiots at the helm want to replace all cars and trucks with electric vechiles, the need for electric power generation is going to increase exponentially and they all need their own batteries.

Quite frankly its a crazy idea as a whole and does not stand up to the tiniest bit of real world scrutiny.


Add to it the fossil fuel burned to produce the panels and to dig up the earth for the minerals in the batteries.

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Re: Wind and solar [Re: misterb] #7711400
11/07/22 02:26 PM 11/07/22 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by misterb
Your battery bank should be large enough to last 3- 10 days

99% of all wind and solar is grid tie , you make it while the sun shines and the power company fires up the Natural Gas turbines the rest of the time.

if you are 100% off grind absolutely you would have days of battery , but battery isn't efficient nor cost effective and if your off grid you already cut your usage significantly.

people don't want to cut usage they want to feel better about their usage.

my brother has a little over 10K he is talking about adding 10k more on his barn roof he is grid tie , it is just a way to make his money go at panels that cancel his electric bill.
he waits for good rebates , sales , tax incentives then buys. he breaks even at about 8-10 years most panels are now rated to 15-20.

America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Wind and solar [Re: bowhunter27295] #7711404
11/07/22 02:30 PM 11/07/22 02:30 PM
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I disagree with wind completely it should be banned permanently, solar, oil, and nuclear should be the future.

To answer the question I would never do solar as grid tie only, with a battery bank you can really offset the initial cost. If you have a 2022 F150 Lightning like I do, your battery bank just became portable and can run my 30 foot travel trailer for right at 3 days, maybe longer if I try to conserve energy. I think if a person was to go off grid, they should always have a backup oil or gas generator of their choosing. Just my opinion.
Re: Wind and solar [Re: bowhunter27295] #7711657
11/07/22 08:34 PM 11/07/22 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
So what does a person or business do if there is an extended cloudy and windless day or week?

Sit in the dark and talk about the Good Ole Days. smile

the wheels of the gods turn very slowly
Re: Wind and solar [Re: bowhunter27295] #7711666
11/07/22 08:39 PM 11/07/22 08:39 PM
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I was quoted $ 17,000.00 for the battery.
Re: Wind and solar [Re: upstateNY] #7711709
11/07/22 09:05 PM 11/07/22 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
So what does a person or business do if there is an extended cloudy and windless day or week?

Sit in the dark and talk about the Good Ole Days. smile

Now that’s funny!
Re: Wind and solar [Re: bowhunter27295] #7711734
11/07/22 09:30 PM 11/07/22 09:30 PM
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The batteries are dangerous, an electric fire is far different than wood burning, every solar stand alone system I know of has a propane stove and a generator.
Re: Wind and solar [Re: bowhunter27295] #7711763
11/07/22 10:07 PM 11/07/22 10:07 PM
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Re: Wind and solar [Re: bowhunter27295] #7711801
11/07/22 10:58 PM 11/07/22 10:58 PM
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Delta, county, Michigan
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All i know is i lived 9 1/2 years totally off grid, no intertie, dont claim to know it all but i know my home brewed system kept working the whole time.

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Re: Wind and solar [Re: bowhunter27295] #7711803
11/07/22 10:59 PM 11/07/22 10:59 PM
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It depends what you want to use the electricity for.

I you just want to use it for lighting and other things that don't make heat, then a 12 volt system with LED lights works great. A good deep cycle battery, $100, plus and 50 watt panel and regulator for $50 on Amazon will set you up. And you can add to that very easily if you want to scale up a bit.

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