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Re: Deer rifle thoughts [Re: Supergoose] #7716525
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TIKA 25-06 - great rifle. Can usually pick up with a scope for $500-$600.
Will kill anything a 30-06 will and very little recoil.


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Re: Deer rifle thoughts [Re: Supergoose] #7716530
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I, too, am an 06 shooter. But if I were looking for lighter recoil I think a 257 Bob or 250 Savage in either a bolt or 99 would be interesting.
In a self loader the 6.8 SPC has alot going for it in an AR or the rare mini14.

Re: Deer rifle thoughts [Re: Wanna Be] #7716556
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Originally Posted by patfundine
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Think you missed the “mild recoil” part, lol. I wouldn’t take one of those guns if it was given to me and I’d feel ashamed of myself if I tried to sell it to someone. We sighted in a 6.5 and it wasn’t that bad, but still worse than anything I have. The .270…that gun kicked like a mule on steroids…I used to shoot 3.5” 12ga turkey loads too. The scopes will not hold a zero after 3-4 shots and even though they say they are boresighted, you better have an 8x8 sheet of plywood and start out at 10yds to hit on the board.
When we were done and carried the rifles back to the owner he’s asked what I thought of them, I told him he definitely got what he paid for…a cheap piece of junk and I’d never sight another one of those guns in again.


This was my experience with a Savage 110 in 270 as well. I had a recoil pad put on it and it still kicked the crap out of me. I sold that gun to the gunsmith/store who put the recoil pad on it.

Re: Deer rifle thoughts [Re: Supergoose] #7716560
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30/06 Long Live the King. Winchester model 70, Wood Furniture. I have no regard or interest in synthetic or stainless steel anything. Anywhere hunters gather the used and abused classics are where it’s at. Tell a story

Re: Deer rifle thoughts [Re: HayDay] #7716571
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Originally Posted by HayDay
Kicked this around myself in the past few months, had decided on a 260 Rem, then really got to studying load data, and cooled off on the idea. For now, going to perfect loads for the 6mm Rem. I now remember why I chose that back when I did. It has a lot going for it over all the 6mm choices, except popularity. Getting nearly impossible to find brass or ammo for it.

Which brings me back to the 308 Win and siblings. 7mm-08, 260 Rem and 243 Win. Bottom line, if you can handle what recoil the 308 generates, it is hard to beat. Abundance of ammo, abundance of reloading components, easy to load for and it is a hammer. Of the siblings, not a fan but 243 has same attributes, at half the recoil of the 308. Third choice.......7mm-08. Less components and ammo choices, but a strong performer. Bringing up the rear........260 Rem. Strong performer, but like 6mm Rem, fading fast. No ammo, gonna be hard to find brass.



You will always be able to get brass for a 260. It's as simple as running a 243,708 or 308 through a sizing die and trimming them.

Re: Deer rifle thoughts [Re: danny clifton] #7716581
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I have two howa's. One a weatherby vanguard which is really a howa and one I bought as a barreled action and had a gunsmith put together a stock for my wife. Both are very accurate. Shoot quarters at a 100 yards.

Mine are wood stocked. I think they are all composite stocks now but if anything composites ought to make them shoot even better.

I think you would like a 22-250. Shoot very flat. Very little recoil. As soon as you say you dont need more than a 100 yard gun your going to want to make a 200 yard shot ......

I thought their was some differences between the vanguard and the Howa. Particularly in the action and stalks

Re: Deer rifle thoughts [Re: Supergoose] #7716595
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just get you a 6.5 creedmore. It's what all the cool kids have now. It comes with a mail in ballot and a guide to man bun care !! WIN WIN

Re: Deer rifle thoughts [Re: Supergoose] #7716613
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Yes sir I dont know about the stocks. Gunsmith made my wifes stock and put a new howa barreled action on it. I bought the Vanguard complete. If there is a difference in the actions I am unaware of it. My wifes rifle and mine both are old enough you can adjust the trigger pull. I don't think you can on the new ones. maybe there are some differences today I am unaware of.

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Re: Deer rifle thoughts [Re: Supergoose] #7716617
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Originally Posted by Supergoose
Danny , would like to get something a little heavier to limit recoil a bit. Plus won’t lie, just want something new……


use 30-06 reduced recoil rounds , this is basically a 30-06 loaded to 308 velocity's or with a lighter bullet

or get a muzzle brake

my 30-06 load is for an M1 and a 742 so it is already needing to be 308 velocities for the M1 I just run it that way for both , deer never notice but you will in the recoil.

the bullet being identical a 308 max load is basically identical to a 30-06 starting load in most powders that work for both and also with the velocities

the 308 case is 51mm long and the 30-06 case is 63mm long there is just room for more powder

weight will help but make a beast to carry , if you drive to your stand and climb up in and never move no issue , but it you hike in , or walk a good portion of the day it does make a difference.

and you won't even notice a hardly any trajectory difference in 150-200fp between the typical 308 velocity and the 30-06 velocity with the same bullet

it is a 1.1 inch difference at 300 yards between the same 150gr bullet at 2750 and 2900 and since you never shoot game past 200 yards it is a 0.2 inch difference at 100 yard not enough difference to make a difference

if you want less recoil from a 30-06 and don't want to change cartridge , Muzzle brake can reduce felt recoil by 50%

buy a threaded barrel gun , may not be a lot in 30-06 , lots of 308 are coming this way now

my 308 jumps a bit it is fairly light 8.2 pounds ready to hunt however with the brake t took almost all the jump out I am still looking through the scope to watch bullet impact on steel

you have to get the muzzle out of the blind , or holy pressure wave batman


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Re: Deer rifle thoughts [Re: Rockfarmer] #7716639
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Thought about a muzzle break— the gunsmith talked me out of it. Likened it to putting a new motor in a Ford Ecsort…. Sure you can but for the money why would you. ….. still on the fence on this one.

Glad I’m not the only one tired of the recoil with 110’s……

The gun I have now has killed a bunch of deer and I’m not mad at it. Just looking at options especially as I’m getting older.

Good info guys— I appreciate the offer input.


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Originally Posted by Supergoose
Thought about a muzzle break— the gunsmith talked me out of it. Likened it to putting a new motor in a Ford Ecsort…. Sure you can but for the money why would you. ….. still on the fence on this one.

Glad I’m not the only one tired of the recoil with 110’s……

The gun I have now has killed a bunch of deer and I’m not mad at it. Just looking at options especially as I’m getting older.

Good info guys— I appreciate the offer input.


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Re: Deer rifle thoughts [Re: Supergoose] #7716647
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I'd buy a 7mm-08 and call it good. Tikka, Browning, etc. Heck brand doesn't matter. Low recoil, kills deer dead in a hurry.


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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by Supergoose
Thought about a muzzle break— the gunsmith talked me out of it. Likened it to putting a new motor in a Ford Ecsort…. Sure you can but for the money why would you. ….. still on the fence on this one.

Glad I’m not the only one tired of the recoil with 110’s……

The gun I have now has killed a bunch of deer and I’m not mad at it. Just looking at options especially as I’m getting older.

Good info guys— I appreciate the offer input.


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Suppressor, not a silencer. Silencer is what the anti gunners like to call them.


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Re: Deer rifle thoughts [Re: Supergoose] #7716655
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Sako with beautiful walnut.
Blaser with beautiful walnut.
An older Remington 700 with beautiful walnut.
Remington model 7 in .308 may interest you.

Order with high grade black walnut or have a custom stock made.

I have never liked the .30-06 cartridge. Had one rifle in that cartridge and never bonded with it.

There are some very good rifles that are not bolt action. Take a look around. Consider an older rifle that is worth a makeover.


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Re: Deer rifle thoughts [Re: jbyrd63] #7716671
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
just get you a 6.5 creedmore. It's what all the cool kids have now. It comes with a mail in ballot and a guide to man bun care !! WIN WIN

Well I guess I was short changed on mine I did not get a copy of the Guide to Man Bun Care I reckon they took one look at the top of my head and could plainly see IT WOULD BE OF NO USE TO ME !!

Re: Deer rifle thoughts [Re: w side rd 151] #7716673
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Lol I’m like you West Side …… more hair on my back than on my head.

I’m not opposed to an older gun either. Heck, does anyone still manufacture guns with wood stocks anymore

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Re: Deer rifle thoughts [Re: Supergoose] #7716676
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I am by no means a authority on rifles, just sayin. But why a 06 for a designated deer gun, isn't that a bit much? If your not in brush and have the longer shots, why not a 243? Less recoil and gets it done. Just wondering why an 06 for deer.


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Re: Deer rifle thoughts [Re: Supergoose] #7716680
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Originally Posted by Supergoose
That’s the problem I am having now….. with the synthetic stock the gun is light and I am getting tired of getting punched with it.

Danny where I hunt in Michigan we just don’t shoot over 100 yards. Just not wide open here


Look at a Boyd's stock. They list 5 different options for a Savage 110 footprint... And there are 10 different configurations to choose from. They make a nice laminated wooden stock and it might add a bit of weight to mitigate recoil.

Mike


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Re: Deer rifle thoughts [Re: Supergoose] #7716681
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Under 100 yards with little recoil I'd look at some of the 350 legends. As a bonus that ammo is available almost every where


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Re: Deer rifle thoughts [Re: Mike in A-town] #7716683
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I’ll look into those stocks Mike— appreciate it

Catch— I like the ‘06 as it is versatile for nearly everything I dream about hunting. Where I hunt now is 100 yards or less. But someday I may go to the big farmland or orchards and shoot longer.


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